The Ultimate Fighter season 10

There is a fighter on this seasons TUF that I dislike more then Kimbo. Wes Simms is on the show. He is most famous for stomping Frank Mir in the head. I really hope that he gets his ass kicked.

KIMBO KIMBO KIMBO!

You know damn well he is going to win because he is the most marketable, just like Brock Lesnar was.

And Kimbo could knock Lesnar's ass out cold...all he needs is an advancement in wrestling technique and he will be good inside that Octagon.

Kimbo fucking sucks if he gets knocked out in 13 seconds just think how long it will take for Brock to knock him out.

Not one MMA fighter can say they've not had a bad fight. Even Lesnar who tapped out to an Ankle Lock his first fight. Kimbo is a more marketable name than Lesnar coming in. When Lesnar came in he got handed a contract, and he basically threw UFC under the bus. The second he signed that contract UFC was becoming known as "fake."

MMA is not at all fake, but if UFC is in fact staged in any way, than it would make since to give Kimbo a contract.

Besides which, if you look at the record of the two they're identical.

Both Lesnar and Kimbo have lost and won against the one person they lost to.

Both Kimbo and Lesnar beat legends of the sport (Tank Abbott and Randy Coture)

And Kimbo has to actually earn his contract, which is something Brock didn't have to do.

I'd take Kimbo in that fight if he trains with Rampage and gets his slams and ground game up.

Besnar is a far better figher then Kimbo. Far better. Last time we seen Kimbo, he had no skill other then OK hands. Brock has great wrestling and great ground and pound. He did make a mistake and walk into a submision, but he was far better then kimbo then, and far better then Kimbo now.

The first fight of the show was terrible one sided. The match up Rampage chose was domintated by Evans's guy and I mean domintated. That might not be a good sign for Rampage as a trainer.

I hope Kimbo is better now and grows on the show. If he does, I will have no problem saying he deserves a contract, but right now, he deserve nothing special and no special treatment.

It would not be good for the UFC to give this guy huge hype and he goes out and gets his ass beat by some undercard hack. TUF is a legit MMA competion right now. There has been many very good fighters come on the show and then make it in the UFC and not all of them won the show. If Kimbo gets a bunch of cupcakes and he comes to the end still bad, it will look terrible for TUF.

stl311 wrote:

Besides which, if you look at the record of the two they're identical.

Records don't mean shit. Huerta was 19-1 before his fight with Florian and KenFlo was 9-3. Less than half the wins, and already 3 times the losses. But guess what, it doesn't dictate a fighter's skill.

stl311 wrote:

Both Lesnar and Kimbo have lost and won against the one person they lost to.

When did Kimbo beat Seth Petruzelli?

stl311 wrote:

Both Kimbo and Lesnar beat legends of the sport (Tank Abbott and Randy Coture)

Are you freakin kidding me? Comparing Tank Abbott against Randy Couture? Abbott was 3-9 in his last 12 fights. 3 wins over a 12 year span. There's absolutely no comparison to Couture.

stl311 wrote:

And Kimbo has to actually earn his contract, which is something Brock didn't have to do.

Last fight before joining the UFC:
Lesnar beat Min Soo Kim (though it was suppose to be Hong Man Choi).
Kimbo LOST to Seth Petruzelli.

stl311 wrote:

I'd take Kimbo in that fight if he trains with Rampage and gets his slams and ground game up.

Rampage may have been giving him acting lessons instead of MMA training...

Yeah, I don't think you can call Tank a legend. Couture is a true legend and Kimbo got knocked the hell out in his last fight.

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The season debut of “The Ultimate Fighter 10” shattered the network’s previous ratings record for the show with a whopping 4.1 million viewers (5.3 rating), according to a press release distributed by Spike TV Thursday.

The series’ previous highpoint was 2.8 million viewers for the live finale of “The Ultimate Fighter 3” in 2006, said the release.

Huge positive for the UFC.

I thought Kimbo had beaten Pertruzzi. My bad.

And besides which, Kimbo was suppose to fight Shamrock. And no offense to Coture, but Shamrock was way better in his prime than Coture. Not only that but you've got to take into consideration that Kimbo is actually having to earn his contract. Brock Lesnar didn't have to go on The Ultimate Fighter, and he is nowhere near as big of a name as Kimbo Slice. At least he wasn't before he went to UFC.

Everyone saw Brock as the guy who got PWNed because he fucking left a multi-million dollar contract with the WWE to go play football for the Vikings. Upon which he got cut in the preseason. Then he dropped off everyone's radar for a very long period of time. If Kimbo can improve his ground game, if Kimbo can stuff takedowns from Lesnar, Kimbo will knock Lesnar's ass out cold.

Period. Besides which, you know by the time the match up happens Kimbo will be world's better than he is now and he might possibly knock out Lesnar. You gotta figure Kimbo will have three fights between now and the time TUF is done, after that he will probably have another 3 fights in UFC. Than he will get his shot at Lesnar, and quite possibly fuck his world up.

Brock was the hottest free agent in MMA and Pertruzzi knocked Kimbo out really quickly. Pertruzzi was supposed to be in a undercard fight that night and he knocked the main event hype guy the hell out. That says more to how bad Kimbo was then how good Pertruzzi was. Kimbo has fought no one. He is a step above bum fights. So what if he beat some asshole in a backyard fight, Brock would maul him in seconds. He would drive him to the matt and pound the hell out of him.

As for Shamrock being better then Couture, I disagree. Couture is a 5 time champion, the only 5 time champion in UFC history

The difference is, if Kimbo had the time to develop than he could beat Brock. Of course he'd get mauled right now, but that's only because Brock is technically a Super Heavyweight. He makes weight then plurges and gets super huge. If Mir can't beat Lesnar right now than nobody can.

Any UFC Heavy Weight would beat the hell out of Kimbp, have you seen his profesional fights? The first guy he fought in Elite XC was just terrible and then he got knocked out by Pertruzzi. He had no ground game what so ever. I will need to see him fight before I can say he is better. If he isn't, Wes Simms can beat him

I think the dark horse is that one dude that was a former IFL Heavyweight Champion, or something like that.

Besides which you know Kimbo is going to get plenty of time to train before they pick him for a fight.

That is true. I think that he makes it to the finals because he has been on ESPN this past week promoting the show. That doesn't mean he will, but I have a feeling he does.

I haven't seen that Nelson guy fight, but from looking at him, I question his cardio.

stl311 wrote:

And besides which, Kimbo was suppose to fight Shamrock. And no offense to Coture, but Shamrock was way better in his prime than Coture.

I would probably agree with the stsatement that Shamrock was better than Couture in their primes, but you say this under the assumption that Kimbo would beat Shamrock. He very well could have faced him and lost, something Lesnar didn't do. Shouldas and wouldas don't count for anything.

stl311 wrote:

Not only that but you've got to take into consideration that Kimbo is actually having to earn his contract. Brock Lesnar didn't have to go on The Ultimate Fighter, and he is nowhere near as big of a name as Kimbo Slice. At least he wasn't before he went to UFC.

A lot of fighters don't go through TUF, they compete in other promotions and that's what Lesnar did (albeit very very briefly). But the difference is that he won his fight before he was eligible to be signed, Kimbo did not.

stl311 wrote:

Then he dropped off everyone's radar for a very long period of time. If Kimbo can improve his ground game, if Kimbo can stuff takedowns from Lesnar, Kimbo will knock Lesnar's ass out cold.

Because he spent that time training in MMA. What did Kimbo do when EliteXC went down? He was ready to scrap MMA and go into boxing, a style where he wouldn't need to train as much to compete in. He took the easy route and was ready to quit altogether, but Lesnar spent his time training to be a great MMA fighter and it's paying off. Kimbo has not shown the desire to even work on his ground game until he's pretty much forced to now.

stl311 wrote:

You gotta figure Kimbo will have three fights between now and the time TUF is done, after that he will probably have another 3 fights in UFC. Than he will get his shot at Lesnar, and quite possibly fuck his world up.

This is all assuming he can win all his fights.

stl311 wrote:

The difference is, if Kimbo had the time to develop than he could beat Brock. Of course he'd get mauled right now, but that's only because Brock is technically a Super Heavyweight. He makes weight then plurges and gets super huge. If Mir can't beat Lesnar right now than nobody can.

Isn't Kimbo a Super Heavyweight as well? I don't know exactly what he weighs, but he's pretty beastly and should be up there too.

Yes, but UFC doesn't have a Super Heavyweight Division.

If you say he'd qualify as a Super Heavyweight as well, how does that disadvantage him? The whole "Of course he'd get mauled right now, but that's only because Brock is technically a Super Heavyweight. He makes weight then plurges and gets super huge" is exactly what Kimbo could do because he's the same size. That wouldn't explain the mauling that would happen.

Kimbo is top heavy, where as Lesnar is bottom heavy.

In other words it wouldn't be an advantage because Kimbo puts weight on the upper body, Lesnar does not.

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The Ultimate Fighter 10" debut shatters Spike TV ratings records, wins timeslot in key demos
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Sep 17, 2009 at 6:30 pm ET
With the show seemingly on its deathbed in recent years, the UFC and Spike TV's reality series "The Ultimate Fighter" recently debuted its 10th season on Wednesday and scored the biggest ratings in series and Spike TV history.

According to Spike TV, "TUF 10," which features an eclectic mix of MMA and NFL veterans (most notably, former EliteXC headliner Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson), debuted with a whopping 4.1 million viewers.

The series' previous high was 2.8 million viewers, who tuned in for the "TUF 3" premiere in 2006.

The 4.1 million viewers (2.9 household rating) created the largest audience for a single "TUF" episode and a record for a season debut of any show in Spike TV history.

"The intriguing cast of 'The Ultimate Fighter: Heavyweights' has true mass appeal, and the numbers show that this sport is not just for a niche audience anymore," stated Spike TV president Kevin Kay.

Wednesday's hour-long debut, which introduced ex-UFC champs Quinton Jackson and Rashad Evans as coaches, scored big in the young-men demographics (men 18-34, M18-49, M18-24 and M25-34) and topped everything in its timeslot, including "The Jay Leno Show" and the season finale of "America's Got Talent," both of which aired on network television.

Spike TV is available in 98.6 million homes.

For more on the show, including an episode recap and cast member Brendan Schaub's exclusive blog, check out the "The Ultimate Fighter 10" section of the site.

That is amazing and it will be huge numbers when Kimbo fights

stl311 wrote:

In other words it wouldn't be an advantage because Kimbo puts weight on the upper body, Lesnar does not.

How does that affect your weight cutting? You're depriving yourself of liquids, does it matter whether those liquids are absorbed by your upper body or lower body? Working off 10 pounds from your upper body and 10 pounds from your lower body still has the same net result.

Wes Shivers won that fight, anyone agree?

Also, you think Kimbo is going to win next week? I don't think they'd show one of his fights so early unless he won, considering he is a big draw.

I forgot that it was on, I will have to catch the replay and I don't think that Slice would leave the show this soon. I have a feeling that he will be in the final 2.

Watched the fight and it could have went the other way. It seemed to me that that whats his name controled the fight more, but it could have went either way.

FYI Kimbo lost his first match already against Roy Nelson. Dana was pissed at Roy because "he did just enough to win"...so basically Dana is pissed that Kimbo lost.

Immediately after his loss, Dana hinted that Kimbo could be back...aka he'll fix something to get Kimbo another chance.

The fight was terrible. Nelson did just do enough to win and Kimbo could do nothing on the ground. Nelsons ground and pound was weak, my sister hits harder then that, but he took Kimbo down at will and Kimbo did a little less then nothing to get up. Nelson took side control at will.

Doing just enough to win still counts as a win and that's all you need to do on TUF. If you win, you get the contract. But once you get into the UFC, that's when you need to win convincingly to get title shots, but he's not there yet.

Strategically it was perfect for the match-up. Interestingly enough, he was talking about doing just that pre-fight back at the house. I don't think I heard him counting his slaps though like he mentioned, but maybe it just wasn't loud enough.