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PostSubject: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 4:42 pm

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- Dixie Carter posted the follow on her twitter page (Twitter.com/TNADixie): Spoke w/Sting last nite. We've renewed his contract & he said he wouldn't miss Mondays live show for anything. Can't wait to work w/Hulk It appears Sting is heading back to TNA on Monday!

Flair vs. Hogan, I don't care, but Flair vs. Sting one more time, that is something I would turn the channel for.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 pm

I won't be. I really, really am not happy with Ric wrestling.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 5:16 pm

^^I know you are not and I am not really happy about it either, but, if he has to wrestle then I would rather it be with Sting and not Hogan.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 5:21 pm

^Oh, definitely. Hogan shouldn't be wrestling. Honestly, the only person who I'd want to see Flair wrestle in TNA, at this point, is AJ Styles. From the few things I've read about the angle, like AJ dying his hair, it could kind of like be a passing the "Nature Boy" torch, like with Rogers did with Flair. Although, I'm not exactly sure about how that when down and I assume the scenrios are almost entirely different but still.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 5:26 pm

Rogers passes Jacket to Flair ... There you go xP

Now, I do get where you guys are coming from but there is one thing you guys need to understand about the wrestling industry. Once you leave you are done. Seriously, You do not get health Cover or any support. It is how the wrestling industry is.

For example, Why do you think King Kong Bundy is wrestling in the Independent League's?

Why is Nash in TNA still?

Lastly, Why is Flair returning to the ring?

See, The reason being is that they are outcast as people. It happens to all wrestlers. Once you are done ... You are done. I do understand Flair's reasoning to wrestle in the ring. Sure he has probably missed the ring but think about the reasons above and the fact that he nearly lost everything due to his Wife. Sure, Flair could play the manager role but he will be making double of what he is making as a manager. So yes, I understand Flair and any "Legend" or "Has Been" that gets back into the ring, Weather it is TNA or WWE. It is one of the only sources of support that they have once they finish.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 5:39 pm

^^Flair had a passing of the torch type match with HHH as well. In 03, Flair got a WHC match against HHH, while they were still in Evolution. It was a great match and he passed the torch so to speak.

Flair would have had to manage his money very, very badly to have to wrestle at his age. I am sure that he payed for nothing during his second run with WWE and they took care of all of his road expenses. He probably made a million a year from WWE and that is not even counting his DVD sales. Hell, he is still getting payed by WWE today because of the 2 ver popular DVD's on Flair. Flair and Hogan are going to wrestle again because they can't give it up, plain and simple. Hogan went through a messy divorce, yeah, but he has been making money on thing other then wrestling for years now. How long was that dumb ass reality show on? Hogan and Flair would still be a part of TNA, even if they said no to wrestling agian, period. I also don't see how Nash could be hurting for money after his long wrestling career and the other things he has done like movies and such. King Kong Bundy never got to the level that Hogan and Flair did, so it is easy to see why he would still need the money. Austin is perfectly happy with his wrestling career and he said he has no intrest in "one more match" because it could not reach the standard he set in his prime. Austin is a guy that has accepted that his in-ring career is over and he has moved on from that. Flair and Hogan have not and that is why they are going to wrestle and that is why Hogan is going to look like a fool out there on Monday. Hell, he looked like a fool during his 03 WWE run, 02 WWE run, 05, WWE run, and 06 WWE run. His last match should have been Hogan vs. McMahon, at WM 19, but no, he has to keep going out there. Even though is fully aware that he should not do so and he can not put on a good show for anyone, anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 5:51 pm

King Kong Bundy never got the the level that Hogan did. Of course, but he needs the money.

John Cena is currently sitting on just under $ 1 Million a year, So do you honestly think Flair was sitting on over 1 Million a year during his time in WWE? I think not. I would say maybe 750 000 max. Flair lost nearly 75% of what he had due to his nasty divorce. Same can be said for Hogan. Yes they do miss the ring, hence the return as I stated in my previous post but they do need the money.

Austin is still under contract with WWE, He is still getting annual Pay and royalties so there is no need for him to look for other kinds of employment. But Flair is completely different. He is actually getting nothing from WWE. Yes there is two flair DVDs but he is no longer employed by WWE and all ties are severed. The Flair DVDs were WWE Productions, therefore he no longer gets a cent.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 6:13 pm

Even if they need the money that badly, TNA would be paying them regardless of whether they embarass themselves in the ring or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 6:15 pm

Yes, But Flair at the moment may be on $ 75 000

If he picks up a regular schedule then this would increase to something like $150 000
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 6:30 pm

If this was about money, then he could have stayed with WWE in a non-wrestling role, but he would not accept that because he wants to wrestle again. Hell, WWE probably would have given him an on-screen role by now, but, that is not good enough because he has to wrestle.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 6:31 pm

Valid point, But that is where Flair wanting to wrestle comes into play as I and you stated earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeFri Mar 05, 2010 6:35 pm

If Flair would have called WWE and told them TNA's offer, they probably would have matched it. You know Vince was pissed and that he probably matched it to keep him away from TNA. Here is 200K to be a road agent and the Raw GM, but no, he has to wrestle. After all the WWE did for his final moments, he has to wrestle. You know, he did not have to go through with the Career Ending Match angle, but he accepted it then, got a perfect send-off, on the grandest stage in wrestling. On Monday, he will coming back to the ring, on a very small stage and it sucks.

*edit* here is what Flair was making with WWE
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Ric Flair: $508,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
500K a year, times 7 years and this is only an estimated base salary. This doesn't add in his bonus, DVD, and apperance money.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeSat Mar 06, 2010 12:45 am

I think that in the case of Ric Flair, it comes down to the fact that he didn't retire under his own terms and that's probably one of the main reasons why he signed with TNA. You can also use the excuse for wanting to teach the younger boys in the back but deep inside, although he was genuinely moved by his farewell the night after Wrestlemania 24, he was disappointed and a little angry because he wasn't the one to choose the time and place for his final match; Vince McMahon did. And you can say whatever you want about the whole situation but I think that if anyone of us would've been in Flair's shoes at that period of time, I'm not so sure that one of us wouldn't have done the same thing.

I don't necessarily know if the same could be said about Sting, although his situation is very different from Flair's. It's been a couple of years now that we're speculating on the possible Sting retirement and even Sting himself juggled with that possibility but he always find a reason for resigning with TNA. This time, it's the chance to work again with Ric Flair in some capacity. For "marking value", I don't really mind seeing a legend still wrestle but as long as he realizes that their time to hang it up will be coming sooner than later.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeSat Mar 06, 2010 12:59 am

With this whole Flair thing being discussed, did he talk to Shawn before doing this? I remember he saying he'd only wrestle again in the states if Michaels was okay with it because Flair did promise him his final match would be with him.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeSat Mar 06, 2010 1:07 am

I don't know but this might be one of the reasons why Flair apparently backed out of the Hogan/Abyss vs Flair/Styles match for Monday night, since they're apparently going for Hogan turning heel on Abyss before the match even starts instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Sting resigns with TNA   Sting resigns with TNA Icon_minitimeSat Mar 06, 2010 2:21 pm

EdgeHead wrote:
I think that in the case of Ric Flair, it comes down to the fact that he didn't retire under his own terms and that's probably one of the main reasons why he signed with TNA. You can also use the excuse for wanting to teach the younger boys in the back but deep inside, although he was genuinely moved by his farewell the night after Wrestlemania 24, he was disappointed and a little angry because he wasn't the one to choose the time and place for his final match; Vince McMahon did. And you can say whatever you want about the whole situation but I think that if anyone of us would've been in Flair's shoes at that period of time, I'm not so sure that one of us wouldn't have done the same thing.

I don't necessarily know if the same could be said about Sting, although his situation is very different from Flair's. It's been a couple of years now that we're speculating on the possible Sting retirement and even Sting himself juggled with that possibility but he always find a reason for resigning with TNA. This time, it's the chance to work again with Ric Flair in some capacity. For "marking value", I don't really mind seeing a legend still wrestle but as long as he realizes that their time to hang it up will be coming sooner than later.

From what I heard, Austin actually suggested the retirement angle to Flair and Flair requested his last be against HBK. To me, that suggest that Flair agreed to the match and the stipulation. If he was not ready to retire, he could have asked for his release from WWE. Then he could have went off to someplace that still wanted him in the ring and there would be no controversy. Sting did not officially retire, so I have no problem with Sting being back in TNA.
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