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K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:08 am | |
| The general belief within TNA is that Christian Cage is returning back to World Wrestling Entertainment, reports the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. TNA had a meeting with Cage to try to convince him to stay, but he wouldn't commit. TNA also had some of the boys attempt to talk him out leaving. TNA wants him to stay and be a top talker on the babyface side of the feud with the Main Event Mafia. However, Cage has yet to sign a WWE contract.
I hope its so, would love to see him back on WWE not because I'm a fan of him but because I'm more a fan of WWE than TNA. I still hope they do okay but I want to win every debate about which is a better brand. WWE is better by far obviously but people are so blind. | |
| | | DJ Hipp WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:41 am | |
| I wouldnt say WWE is better, especially after TNA's recent streak of amazing shows. I've become more of a TNA fan than a WWE fan, though I really like both.
I would prefer Christian in WWE if he can be a main event player, if not I'd rather him in TNA. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:22 am | |
| I hear u TNA has a better plot unfolding thats it. But apart from Angle and Booker T none of the MEM can wrestle anymore. Scott and Nash is too slow and stiff and Sting one of my all time favorites and a living Legend just can't carry it. They're living off the script not the talent. Too many in ring mistakes. It kinds of remind me of a diva match. I like AJ styles hes great. Samoan Joe has excellent ring ability but he just cant carry it face wise. The black Machizmo is a macho man rip off but i love the guy anyway. Well macho man is my favorite of all time. Cage was legend i progress there. Beer inc. is great and of cost 3D. But apart from that oh and Rhino, theres not much there talent wise. maybe in a few years especially with the script writers seeming to have some great ideas. Almost every name besides Aj, joe and Jay lethal is former WWE. And Super crazy is on his way. Most of the stars on their roster would jump ship at a contract from Vince even if it payed the same amount. WWE is superior but it has put a lot of time in and earned its right to be that. | |
| | | MIGHTY BOOSH Dark Match Wrestler
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:37 pm | |
| Its hard 2 say which is better between TNA and WWE for me these days cause both have serious faults but i'd say TNA's aren't as bad, a year or 2 ago it was TNA all the way but they're storylines latley kinda sucked, except the MEM thats really turning things around. But then although its not as good as it used to be they still have great matches and push deserving wrestlers. WWE however seem to have no respect for wrestling and don't seem to put any effort in. then theres horrible pushing of Cena and Batista and its general suckiness. so yeah i still say TNA all the way. And Beast most of the TNA roster won't work for Vince no matter how much he pays them, AJ, Joe and Petey for example say when asked when their going to WWE just say they're not going any time soon cause they love what they're doing in TNA and want to help TNA grow.
Anyway Christian Cage I would like to se a returning face Christian VS Heel world champion Y2J, i think that would be awsome and less expected than him doing stuff with Edge...that cameout wrong
But WWE will probably do something with Edge and Christian, I'm probably the only one saying Y2J vs Instant Classic would be great.
However if he stays in TNA there's the revenge angle which could spark a 3rd world title reign.
Well forme it's like this if Christian goes to WWE has a great fued with great promo's against Y2J and wins the title and has a decent reign, in WWE he's safe. But there's not much chance of that happening he'll do something with Edge (it would be nice to see E + C together again for nostagla) but chance's are he'd go back to upper midcarder at best, TNA i'd say is the best choice, or atleast the safest choice | |
| | | Tiff Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:40 pm | |
| Ahh, I'd love for this to be true, although I hope they treat him better than they did before. It was great when he was with Edge, but after that he kinda just stayed mid-card, even though he has so much more potential. I hope that if he does come back, that they seriously consider putting him in one of the heavy title pictures. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:11 pm | |
| Nah a lot of the TNA roster would go over to the WWE its just the former TNA stars that wouldn't go. I admit that Joe and Styles wouldn't go. And know that Sting refused when the merger happened. But the young talent would go. If u think of it that they wouldn't get the same push but would get better recognition and fan base. Plus if u add that TNA is still a might be federation. Meaning that they might be around for all of next year. Do u really think that Cage is leaving because he'll get a better push in the WWE he knows that there are too many wrestlers that he'll have to compete with. But nothing beats the rush of a sold out MSG. He'll never seriously get a title push on Raw or Smackdown unless its the IC or US or Tag. He's going into the situation knowing that. Just like everyone else knows. He'll have to go through a lot of feuds and prove that he's better than a mid card. People can use the fact that Jeff had a drug habit as the reason his career stalled but face it he really built a case for himself in his title quest. Christian will have to do the same thing. People aren't staying "Loyal" to TNA because of better opportunity. Opportunity really means nothing when money is concern. The WWE simply offered Cage more than he ever would of gotten from TNA. Everyone on MEM have more than 2 decades in the ring and have represented their brand. Their pockets are swollen. They can afford to turn down the WWE. Jay Lethal can't. I like him and hopes he ends up in the WWE. I will become more evident as more of the young talent leave after building a name for themselves. TNA is just being looked at as free development by Vince. He has aided them by giving them publisity and talent to help shape their young talent. | |
| | | MIGHTY BOOSH Dark Match Wrestler
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:32 pm | |
| Dude you just contradicted yourself, first you say if offered the same amount most of the TNA rostor would go to WWE, now your saying Cage will go to WWE for the money. The TNA roster is very loya, alot of them know that being smaller guys they won't get pushed, Sabin, Lethal, Shelley these do seem to love it there. Look at Gail Kim she only left because she could get more money at WWE, she even told TNA iff they gave her more money she'd stay. Alot of these guys have a passion and want to see it grow, right from day one, thats why TNA is where it is today. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:53 pm | |
| - MIGHTY BOOSH wrote:
- Dude you just contradicted yourself, first you say if offered the same amount most of the TNA rostor would go to WWE, now your saying Cage will go to WWE for the money.
The TNA roster is very loya, alot of them know that being smaller guys they won't get pushed, Sabin, Lethal, Shelley these do seem to love it there. Look at Gail Kim she only left because she could get more money at WWE, she even told TNA iff they gave her more money she'd stay.
Alot of these guys have a passion and want to see it grow, right from day one, thats why TNA is where it is today. okay u lost me somewhere I said that if the offered enough money most of the TNA roster would go to WWE Cage is no exception. He got offered a lot of money. how is that a contradiction. and no they wouldn't stay if they got offered the money. They never got offered only the proven stars. Best to believe that if Jay lethal continues to impress he will end up on WWE. Gail Kim and Cage are perfect example of pay over push. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:46 pm | |
| - MIGHTY BOOSH wrote:
- Dude you just contradicted yourself, first you say if offered the same amount most of the TNA rostor would go to WWE, now your saying Cage will go to WWE for the money.
The TNA roster is very loya, alot of them know that being smaller guys they won't get pushed, Sabin, Lethal, Shelley these do seem to love it there. Look at Gail Kim she only left because she could get more money at WWE, she even told TNA iff they gave her more money she'd stay.
Alot of these guys have a passion and want to see it grow, right from day one, thats why TNA is where it is today. I know that dudes are picky about double posting but dude this just in. Posted by Marc Middleton on 11/28/2008 Source: Wrestling Observer - There have been rumors of undercard cuts in TNA. Several people in the company in the last month or two have been talking about next Spring when a number of TNA deals are up. A lot of guys are talking about wanting to get out of the company but the leverage TNA has on them is that for some, there is nowhere for them to go. Several wrestlers have contacted Konnan with the AAA promotion in Mexico but AAA already has a group of foreigners and there isn't room for too many more. Unless it's a big name and they were willing to work relatively cheap, AAA would want the talents to be based in Mexico City and a lot of people aren't interested in that commitment. Japan is a dead end as far as earning a full-time living goes for most guys. A lot of guys are expected to see if there will be a job waiting for them with WWE. | |
| | | MIGHTY BOOSH Dark Match Wrestler
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:48 am | |
| - BEAST wrote:
okay u lost me somewhere I said that if the offered enough money most of the TNA roster would go to WWE Cage is no exception. He got offered a lot of money. how is that a contradiction. and no they wouldn't stay if they got offered the money. They never got offered only the proven stars. Best to believe that if Jay lethal continues to impress he will end up on WWE. Gail Kim and Cage are perfect example of pay over push. No u didn't, you just contradicted yourself again - BEAST wrote:
- Most of the stars on their roster would jump ship at a contract from Vince even if it payed the same amount
Petey, Sabin and Shelley have been in the company for years and have proven themselves, if they left they could get into WWE. But they know that WWE doesn't push little guys and they've made themselves a home in TNA. as for Lethal i really can't see him in WWE and even if he did go there he'd have a better chance in TNA because they judge wrestlers by skill not size. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:34 am | |
| - MIGHTY BOOSH wrote:
- BEAST wrote:
okay u lost me somewhere I said that if the offered enough money most of the TNA roster would go to WWE Cage is no exception. He got offered a lot of money. how is that a contradiction. and no they wouldn't stay if they got offered the money. They never got offered only the proven stars. Best to believe that if Jay lethal continues to impress he will end up on WWE. Gail Kim and Cage are perfect example of pay over push. No u didn't, you just contradicted yourself again
- BEAST wrote:
- Most of the stars on their roster would jump ship at a contract from Vince even if it payed the same amount
Petey, Sabin and Shelley have been in the company for years and have proven themselves, if they left they could get into WWE. But they know that WWE doesn't push little guys and they've made themselves a home in TNA. as for Lethal i really can't see him in WWE and even if he did go there he'd have a better chance in TNA because they judge wrestlers by skill not size. Dude I don't see why ur saying something is a contradiction but u see TNA as better than WWE so it kinds of bold well that ur thinking is a little off. My question is do u see the exert from the Wrestling observer I quoted above. How it say that when their contract is up they plan on testing where they might be able to go. Even if they don't go to the WWE that does not sound like loyalty. They're staying there because of that leverage. Why do u think TNA sign stars that aren't talented enough to make it anywhere else yet? Because they can offer whatever kind of contract they want. TNA is the Puff Daddy of wrestling. And as soon as most of their contracts are up the 1's that Vince think are good will end up in the WWE the rest will return to TNA. Dude running this type of business isn't easy and Vince and family have been doing it since 86. They are the only 1 out of almost a dozen to survive on mainstream TV. Why would u want to stay with a might be org. when a proven one is available unless u have the money already. Like Angle and Nash and Sting and Scott and Ryno. They all already have money because they have been around for awhile these young kids will take the money if given a chance. | |
| | | MIGHTY BOOSH Dark Match Wrestler
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:22 am | |
| - Quote :
- Dude I don't see why ur saying something is a contradiction
Cause in your first post you said if Vince offered the same amount of money most of the TNA rostor would leave yet in the second post you say its all about the money. How the hell is anyone going to agree with you when you can't even agree with yourself. - Quote :
- but u see TNA as better than WWE so it kinds of bold well that ur thinking is a little off.
What? Yes i think TNA's better but the rest of that made no sense, its like your hungover and know what you want to say but your head hurts and youu've just thrown some words together hoping they make sense. - Quote :
- Why do u think TNA sign stars that aren't talented enough to make it anywhere else yet? Because they can offer whatever kind of contract they want.
My God you idiot! thats what you think, its widley beleived by many smarks whether they like TNA or not that they have one of the best rosters in the world, possibly the best. Many of these wrestlers work for ROH and do well in other countriees such as Japan. TNA is full of talented wrestlers what you posted is complete crap. TNA signs talented stars often because WWE has over looked them due to their size. You idiot don't you realise that you don't have to work for WWE to be talented. - Quote :
- And as soon as most of their contracts are up the 1's that Vince think are good will end up in the WWE the rest will return to TNA.
Many wrestlers have turned down Vince, if what you say was true TNA would only have like half it's roster right now. - Quote :
- Why would u want to stay with a might be org. when a proven one is available unless u have the money already.
To help it grow, to be loyal and because there is alot more to wrestling than money. If what you say is true than WCW would taken most of WWE's roster and won the monday night wars before they even began. - Quote :
- these young kids will take the money if given a chance.
AJ, Joe and i'm sure many others have been given the chance and they are still there. - Quote :
- How it say that when their contract is up they plan on testing where they might be able to go. Even if they don't go to the WWE that does not sound like loyalty.
No names have been mentioned this is just a rumour. Until i hear some names this doesn't mean shit. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:37 am | |
| Cause in your first post you said if Vince offered the same amount of money most of the TNA rostor would leave yet in the second post you say its all about the money. How the hell is anyone going to agree with you when you can't even agree with yourself.
THIS MAKES TOTAL SINCE BUT UR MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING. IF VINCE OFFERED THEY WOULD GO BECAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
My God you idiot! thats what you think, its widley beleived by many smarks whether they like TNA or not that they have one of the best rosters in the world, possibly the best. Many of these wrestlers work for ROH and do well in other countriees such as Japan. TNA is full of talented wrestlers what you posted is complete crap. TNA signs talented stars often because WWE has over looked them due to their size. You idiot don't you realise that you don't have to work for WWE to be talented.
WRONG MOST OF THESE STARS COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE OR WERE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE WHEN TNA OFFERED THEM A CONTRACT AND AGAIN ITS ABOUT THE MONEY SO WHO WOULDN'T ACCEPT
Many wrestlers have turned down Vince, if what you say was true TNA would only have like half it's roster right now.
NOW I ASK U TO PRODUCE A PROOF! OTHER THAN FORMER WWE STARS, STING, AJ STYLES AND SAMOAN JOE PRODUCE PROOF THAT A TNA STAR HAS TURNED DOWN AN OFFER. I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN PROOF THAT SAMOAN JOE HAS TURNED 1 DOWN OR AJ STYLES. I JUST ASSUME THAT THE WWE MUST HAVE OFFERED THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD.
To help it grow, to be loyal and because there is alot more to wrestling than money. If what you say is true than WCW would taken most of WWE's roster and won the monday night wars before they even began.
WRONG AGAIN. IF WHAT U SAY IS TRUE WCW WOULD OF WON THE WARS. VINCE SIMPLY PAYED FOR TALENT AND WHEN THAT WASN'T ENOUGH HE BROUGHT THE BRAND IT SELF. MANY WCW WRESTLERS WERE GETTING PAYED LESS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO KEEP THE BIGGER NAMES. SO A LOT OF THE SMALLER NAMES SUCH AS Y2J, STONE COLD, AND FEW FUTURE WWE STARS DEPARTED FOR BIGGER CONTRACTS.
AJ, Joe and i'm sure many others have been given the chance and they are still there.
I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE CASE FOR AJ AND JOE BUT LIKE I SAID NO EVIDENCE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT AJ IN CASE U DIDN'T KNOW STARTED IN XWF WITH A FEW OF THE OLDER WRESTLERS. WHEN TNA OPENED UP THEY OFFERED HIM A HUGH CONTRACT AND HE EXCEPTED IT. THE WWE UNWISELY OVERLOOKED HIM AND HE IS GREATFUL TO TNA FOR THAT. WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE HE WILL HEAD TO THE WWE.
No names have been mentioned this is just a rumour. Until i hear some names this doesn't mean shit.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I'M AT LEAST COMING FROM A FOUNDATION. I ASK U AGAIN PRODUCE EVIDENCE. | |
| | | MIGHTY BOOSH Dark Match Wrestler
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:18 pm | |
| First of all have you ever heard of a qoute, 2nd why the hell are you writing in caps you moron, if you wanted to make what i said and what you said look different you could have used another colour or a QUOTE - Quote :
- THIS MAKES TOTAL SINCE BUT UR MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING. IF VINCE OFFERED THEY WOULD GO BECAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
Its sense learn to type. Like i said wrestling is not all about money you are the only person i've ever talked to that beleives that. Wrestling is an art, a passion and a wrestler is wrestler because its what he loves, the majority of wrestlers are in it for a love of the business, infact come to think about it thats a big difference between the WWE roster and TNA's, TNA's roster is full of wrestlers in it for nothing but love of the business, alot of WWE despite many having some love of the business its mostly about money. - Quote :
- WRONG MOST OF THESE STARS COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE OR WERE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE ELSE WHEN TNA OFFERED THEM A CONTRACT AND AGAIN ITS ABOUT THE MONEY SO WHO WOULDN'T ACCEPT
Thats complete BS, wheres your proof, most the rostor can and have worked else where as i said in my last post. And if they were too young wouldn't they have gone else where by now, what your saying is complete BS - Quote :
- NOW I ASK U TO PRODUCE A PROOF! OTHER THAN FORMER WWE STARS, STING, AJ STYLES AND SAMOAN JOE PRODUCE PROOF THAT A TNA STAR HAS TURNED DOWN AN OFFER. I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN PROOF THAT SAMOAN JOE HAS TURNED 1 DOWN OR AJ STYLES. I JUST ASSUME THAT THE WWE MUST HAVE OFFERED THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD.
Ive heard an interveiw with Samoa Joe, AJ and Petey and everything i've said comes from what they said. - Quote :
- WRONG AGAIN. IF WHAT U SAY IS TRUE WCW WOULD OF WON THE WARS. VINCE SIMPLY PAYED FOR TALENT AND WHEN THAT WASN'T ENOUGH HE BROUGHT THE BRAND IT SELF. MANY WCW WRESTLERS WERE GETTING PAYED LESS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO KEEP THE BIGGER NAMES. SO A LOT OF THE SMALLER NAMES SUCH AS Y2J, STONE COLD, AND FEW FUTURE WWE STARS DEPARTED FOR BIGGER CONTRACTS.
Don't you remember how WWF/E almost whent bankrupt. If what you say about wrestling being all about money then most of WWE's top stars would have gone to WCW. But thats not the case they stayed with WWF just like guys are staying with TNA today. - Quote :
- I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE CASE FOR AJ AND JOE BUT LIKE I SAID NO EVIDENCE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT AJ IN CASE U DIDN'T KNOW STARTED IN XWF WITH A FEW OF THE OLDER WRESTLERS. WHEN TNA OPENED UP THEY OFFERED HIM A HUGH CONTRACT AND HE EXCEPTED IT. THE WWE UNWISELY OVERLOOKED HIM AND HE IS GREATFUL TO TNA FOR THAT. WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE HE WILL HEAD TO THE WWE.
AJ turned down WWE many times, he turned down a development deal even before going to TNA and he turned one down while in TNA. If you think AJ is going to WWE you are an idiot As for proof, i've heard interveiws and comments from the likes of Joe and AJ and most the rostor are'nt interested in WWE right now, maybe later but right now they want to help TNA grow and start competing with WWE. - Quote :
- THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I'M AT LEAST COMING FROM A FOUNDATION. I ASK U AGAIN PRODUCE EVIDENCE.
I have and i trust the word of the wrestlers themselves over some rumour that doesn't even mention any names | |
| | | stl311 The Omega VIP
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:31 pm | |
| I always have trouble with sense and since too...of course I gots a Tennessee Edumacation. And this Christian Cage shit is getting old. I'm going to be burnt out on it by the time he does either. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:01 pm | |
| Ha!Ha! Like i said wrestling is not all about money you are the only person i've ever talked to that beleives that. Wrestling is an art, a passion and a wrestler is wrestler because its what he loves, the majority of wrestlers are in it for a love of the business, infact come to think about it thats a big difference between the WWE roster and TNA's, TNA's roster is full of wrestlers in it for nothing but love of the business, alot of WWE despite many having some love of the business its mostly about money.At the end of the day money will always be the ultimate motivator. I agree there is a love for the sport amongst wrestlers which is another reason why you would see them jump ship if given the chance. Who wouldn't want to be in the same ring as the legendary Undertaker and HBK. These kids grew up loving wrestling watching these very superstars. JBL, Y2J and the many other vets of the game. Love of the sport would propel them. Much of the younger talent isn't getting pushed because of their talent but because of a smaller roster. It gives you the ability to get more on screen time. Vince saved wrestling by buying WCW and picking up ECW 2 years after it collapsed. I hope TNA last just because I like to see various wrestling brands. But I would be just as happy if Vince began another segment at a different time under the WWE name. Thats complete BS, wheres your proof, most the rostor can and have worked else where as i said in my last post.Where have they worked. Again bring ur proof. And if they were too young wouldn't they have gone else where by now, what your saying is complete BS They haven't developed enough 1 and 2 where else are they going. Ive heard an interveiw with Samoa Joe, AJ and Petey and everything i've said comes from what they said. Wheres the interview so I can read it. Don't you remember how WWF/E almost whent bankrupt.No I don't remember that here what I know: WWE's revenue in fiscal 2006 (from May 2005 to April 2006) was approximately $400 million (US), with a net profit of approximately $47 million. As of August 2006, the company's market capitalization is over $1 billion (US). Its stock is traded on the NYSE as WWE. If what you say about wrestling being all about money then most of WWE's top stars would have gone to WCW.And this is what I know about WCW: With the success of the Attitude Era, WCW's already shaky financial situation deteriorated even further. It only survived because Ted Turner retained control over it as a result of Turner Broadcasting System's merger with Time Warner. However, after Time Warner merged with AOL, Turner's power was considerably reduced, and the newly merged company decided to shed its dead weight, namely WCW which was now losing scores of millions of dollars each year. In March 2001, WWF Entertainment, Inc. acquired World Championship Wrestling, Inc. from AOL Time Warner for a number reported to be around $7 million. So again I ask u whats ur proof? AJ turned down WWE many times, he turned down a development deal even before going to TNA and he turned one down while in TNA.And of course why would he take a development deal. If he headed to the main roster he wouldn't had turned it down especially when the WWF was the only existing divison at that time. If you think AJ is going to WWE you are an idiotHe'll be there. As for proof, i've heard interveiws and comments from the likes of Joe and AJ and most the rostor are'nt interested in WWE right now, maybe later but right now they want to help TNA grow and start competing with WWE.That the predominate saying. It was also what Cage wanted but bet u see him come January. I have and i trust the word of the wrestlers themselves over some rumour that doesn't even mention any names[/quote]Just give me an off screen interview. Not something scripted by the TNA staff. Thats what I want to see. | |
| | | MIGHTY BOOSH Dark Match Wrestler
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:21 pm | |
| - Quote :
- At the end of the day money will always be the ultimate motivator. I agree there is a love for the sport amongst wrestlers which is another reason why you would see them jump ship if given the chance. Who wouldn't want to be in the same ring as the legendary Undertaker and HBK. These kids grew up loving wrestling watching these very superstars. JBL, Y2J and the many other vets of the game. Love of the sport would propel them. Much of the younger talent isn't getting pushed because of their talent but because of a smaller roster. It gives you the ability to get more on screen time. Vince saved wrestling by buying WCW and picking up ECW 2 years after it collapsed. I hope TNA last just because I like to see various wrestling brands. But I would be just as happy if Vince began another segment at a different time under the WWE name.
The TNA roster knows that Vince doesn't like little guys, and they know that chances are they wont be in the same ring as Taker. However in TNA they get to work with legends like Angle, Rhino, Nash and several more aswell as helping a company they beleive in grow. As for Vince saving wrestling again your the only one who seems to think that, many hate Vince for ending the terretory system and ruining wrestling. - Quote :
- Where have they worked. Again bring ur proof.
I ask you for proof and what do you give me nothing you just ask me to give you proof despite me telling where they've wrestled anyway. Its common knowledge that many of TNA's roster have made names for themselves else where do your research before you waste my time - Quote :
- They haven't developed enough 1 and 2 where else is there to go.
WWE for one or have you forgotten what we're talking about. Besides like i said there's many different places to go, you don't seem to realise that there's more to wrestling than TNA and WWE. - Quote :
- Wheres the interview so I can read it.
It was a radio interveiw on the Sun's website i think. Probably gone now but if you do some digging i'm sure you can find some similar info. - Quote :
No I don't remember that here what I know: WWE's revenue in fiscal 2006 (from May 2005 to April 2006) was approximately $400 million (US), with a net profit of approximately $47 million. As of August 2006, the company's market capitalization is over $1 billion (US). Its stock is traded on the NYSE as WWE. Do you know anything pre 2000 All that proves is that WWE is loaded, so what that wasn't always the case and it has no impact on this discussion - Quote :
- And this is what I know about WCW:
With the success of the Attitude Era, WCW's already shaky financial situation deteriorated even further. It only survived because Ted Turner retained control over it as a result of Turner Broadcasting System's merger with Time Warner. However, after Time Warner merged with AOL, Turner's power was considerably reduced, and the newly merged company decided to shed its dead weight, namely WCW which was now losing scores of millions of dollars each year. In March 2001, WWF Entertainment, Inc. acquired World Championship Wrestling, Inc. from AOL Time Warner for a number reported to be around $7 million.
So again I ask u whats ur proof? They almost whent bankrupt before the attitude era and if you knew anything pre attitude you'd know i dont need proof. | |
| | | K.Smoke WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:30 pm | |
| How about this from the Orlando Sentinel
Nash's contract expires within the next few months and he has made it no secret that he is interested in returning to the WWE as Shawn Michaels' bodyguard, a role he played over a decade ago. The big question is whether or not the WWE really wants him or is this is a ploy to get a better deal from TNA. | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:35 pm | |
| - BEAST wrote:
- How about this from the Orlando Sentinel
Nash's contract expires within the next few months and he has made it no secret that he is interested in returning to the WWE as Shawn Michaels' bodyguard, a role he played over a decade ago. The big question is whether or not the WWE really wants him or is this is a ploy to get a better deal from TNA. Nash very well may go to WWE but he has always been about the money. But chances are he'll stay in TNA due to his health and WWE's insane road schedule. I'm sure he wants to go to WWE and get a bigger check but he also wants an easy schedule and it seems his wife wants him to stay in TNA for the same reasons. | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:45 pm | |
| - MIGHTY BOOSH wrote:
- BEAST wrote:
- How about this from the Orlando Sentinel
Nash's contract expires within the next few months and he has made it no secret that he is interested in returning to the WWE as Shawn Michaels' bodyguard, a role he played over a decade ago. The big question is whether or not the WWE really wants him or is this is a ploy to get a better deal from TNA. Nash very well may go to WWE but he has always been about the money. But chances are he'll stay in TNA due to his health and WWE's insane road schedule. I'm sure he wants to go to WWE and get a bigger check but he also wants an easy schedule and it seems his wife wants him to stay in TNA for the same reasons. I remember that on my wrestling news site, they had something on this. So, I looked it up. Kevin Nash Said He Was Close To A WWE Return Submitted by Brad Ingles on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at 7:50 PM EST
Kevin Nash said during an interview on the Dr. Keith Lipinski Show that he was 99.9% sure he would return to WWE and end his career there. Nash told Lipinski, "My wife looked at me and said, 'Why would you want to go back on the road when we live in Florida, you are ninety minutes away from work five days a month? If you do go on the road it's only a couple days a month. You're home, you saved your money, you're beat up, and I just can't see you going on the road and doing 12-14 days a month with say Batista or someone like that working every night. I don't see how you are going to last."
Nash said that there would have been big paydays with WWE, especially with WrestleMania. His wife responded and said that he was miserable throughout the five WrestleMania's he was in.
Kevin Nash and Shawn Michaels talked about a potential WWE storyline. "I talked with Shawn and we were trying to work out some storyline things of what we wanted to do," Nash said. "I'm sure if I dyed my hair, I'd look younger, but at the same time if God intended me to have pigment in my hair, I'd have pigment in my hair. This is how I'm supposed to look. It's going to be gun metal gray in high definition."Either way, I thought this thread was about Christian... | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:57 pm | |
| Yeah thats what i thought til me and beast started naturing
Anyway looks like Nash will end his carreer in WWE, unless MEM goes well for him, but until he's ready to retire he's staying in TNA. And i wouldn't count on him going to WWE espeacially if he listens to his wife.
As for Christian in WWE its looking more and more likley, i've made my veiws clear like how i'd like a Christian/Y2J thing espeacially over the title (too bad he lost to Cena) although it looks like he'll do something with new World champ Edge. But i'lll beleive when i see it | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:03 pm | |
| The general belief is if Christian goes to WWE by early 09 he/Edge/Tomko will all be working together, wasn't clear on if it was going to be a team or a fued. Oh, if you me to so evidence on that I'll post the evidence. Yet, I would love a Jericho/Christian fued, as they put on quite a great match at Wrestlemania 20. That being said, Christian is only going to be pushed long term anyways, depending on fan reaction, so it may not be far fetched for that fued to happen. | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:06 pm | |
| Christian fueding with Edge for the title then being betrayed by Tomko who joins Edge, thats where i see WWE going with this as Cage will most likley be a big returning face. | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:12 pm | |
| I'd rather Christian in TNA. But since he's headed to WWE I'd rather see him in a stable. Maybe something with Orton and Priceless, only because I know they aren't going to seriously push him. I don't want to see Edge back in the tag team division unless he's on Raw. Smackdown needs Edge. Maybe a collision corse with Edge would be good for Christian. Especially if Edge retains the title. But then again that reeks of the form Rocker feud between HBK and Marty Jennety. I think if he joins a stable he would at least get a pushing for a different title. The US title dispute is between R-Truth and Shelton. IC is up in the air. I think Punk is our next champion. If they feud him with Punk then it will make the transition worth it. | |
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| Subject: Re: New info on Christian Cage Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:22 pm | |
| I'm actually not going to throw Christian not getting seriously pushed out of the window. We know he, Tomko, and Edge will most likely be invovled in a storyline together by 09...
Source: Dave Meltzer, F4Wonline.com
With Edge back in WWE and Christian expected to return there by the end of the year, many expect that we'll see Edge, Christian and Tomko involved together in early 2009, whether teaming together or feuding.
That being said, when Jeff Hardy first debuted I didn't think he would go anywhere, now he has almost won the World Heavyweight Championship, but Hardy screwed up and got suspended (thank god). That being said, if Christian gets enough fan reaction from the crowd during the storyline, I sense he will stay on top but, probably best to draft him off Smackdown and most likely will happening, seeing as Vince is anti-team pushing, which was reason 1 of Matt getting drafted to ECW, 2 being to lessen ECW's massive roster blow. If he fails Vince's expection, will probably see him back in TNA 90 days after his contract runs out. | |
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