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Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:01 am | |
| I don't see a WM 25 thread and seeing as it is just 6 weeks from now, I think it is time. Here is what we know about WM25.
HHH vs. Orton for the WWE Championship Edge vs. Cena for the WHC CM Punk in the MITB Unless there is a big change, HBK vs. Taker Hardy vs. Hardy
Taker vs. HBK one more time is a dream match for me. It is amazing that both Taker and HBK can still main event WM. Taker and HBK had a WWE title feud that ended at the RR in 98, 11 years ago and now they will go one more time at the biggest WM ever. I will mark way out for this one and they could steal the show. I really am not interested in Hardy vs. Hardy at all. I hope that HHH stops his Mania losing streak and I hope that Edge does not drop the WHC again, for the second year in a row. There are 7 MITB spots left, who do you think will fill them? | |
| | | Ashley Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:28 am | |
| well, HBK will face Vladimar for the right to face Taker. If Kozlov wins that, WrestleMania is ruined, so im obviously wanting HBK to win tonight. Edge vs. Cena, it has been scene all before really, they had a big fued in like 2006, and it was epic. Now, it could really get repetetive unless they add a new flair or something to it. Hardy vs. Hardy, a brother fued. It seems like an okay match on the card, but WWE could script it really epic. MITB - CM Punk, I predict the other seven will be.. Kofi Kingston, Cody Rhodes, DiBiase, Paul Burchill(I mean he really needs a title run), R-Truth, Evan Bourne(IF he returns by then) and between [MVP, Chavo or Shelton]. If the LEgacy storyline is still going, Rhodes or DiBiase BETTER win. Diva match, I think will be some 25 diva tag...WOW. lmao. That would surprise me, since it is an uneven number. But I highly doubt that both the Diva and Women's championships will be on the line. In recent weeks, I hope to see Maria vs. Eve vs. Maryse vs. Michelle for the divas championship and give one of the ECW girls a title run, Katie Lea, Natalya EVEN Alicia Fox. | |
| | | Y2J X Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:54 am | |
| I've actually heard WWE was planing Edge vs. Big Show. I don't know but, their have been too many Edge vs. Cena matches. I didn't hear any contradictions to the other matches so I'll answer some. For Money in the Bank I have no idea who'll be in. I hope Cody Rhodes doesn't get in though. I see MVP and Chavo (hopefully) getting in. I don't see Punk winning it again, and as another note, this may just be Shelton's year to win it. I see Orton winning at Mania, WWE has just spent all this time building him up in this rivalry, problem is, the WWE Championship won't be that valuable after HHH losing, to many quick title runs. Don't see Edge retaining no matter if he faces Cena, Show, or both but, he'll probably win it back in a month or so. HBK vs. Taker would be awesome but, I kind of want to save that for when one of them is retiring (both ways Taker would win), I wouldn't mind seeing Kozlov added into the equation, but I guess you don't always get what you want.
Also, I can see Christian in Money in the Bank and I can see him win it even. | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:40 pm | |
| I agree that Edge vs. Cena is a little played out, but hopefully we see a new twist to their feud. Both guys are young and they will be around for a very long time, so we will likely see this feud off and on for years to come. Austin feuded with Rock off and on for several years. Austin/Taker, Austin/HHH, Rock/HHH, and so on. I also agree with the WWE title and short title runs and I think that the same could be said for the WHC. It change hands 8 times in the last 12 months> hope that whomever wins that match has the WHC title for a while and I hope that HHH's 13th WWE title run last for a long time. It appears that the Divas will be doing nothing this year, but it will be better then the Diva match last year. I can only think of one great Divas match in recent Mania, Trish vs. Mickie James. I hope that Morrison gets in the MITB match this year. That Moonsalt with a ladder in his hands from last year was crazy. I figure that Kennedy will be returning to action soon and that he could be part of the MITB. I still can't muster much for the Hardy vs. Hardy match. I would like to see that feud play out in the MITB match first and then continue it over the summer months. I wonder what Austin will be doing at WM? I read that he may be a ref in the WWE title match. I just read a rumor that Vince told Jericho that he will have something big at Mania. I hope that Hogan does not show up. I was a huge fan, but his time is way past and he has made a mockery of his wrestling career with his dumb ass reality shows. the only match I want too see Hogan in is Austin vs. Hogan. I would have a mark attack seeing Austin whip Hogans ass. The dream match for me was never Rock vs. Hogan. That year Austin got stuck wrestling Scott Hall, while The Rock got hogan. Shortly after that, Austin "took his ball and went home". Being stuck in that match, I can see why. Rumors of Mickey Rourke wrestling keep popping up and I really hope that they are not true. Playing a wrestler in a movie does not give him a spot on the biggest wrestling event of all-time. He shows up at Mania, fine. He refs Jericho's match. fine. Maybe he even gets a little involved, but no way should he get a match on the card. | |
| | | Y2J X Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:11 pm | |
| - Concrete Jesus wrote:
- I agree that Edge vs. Cena is a little played out, but hopefully we see a new twist to their feud. Both guys are young and they will be around for a very long time, so we will likely see this feud off and on for years to come. Austin feuded with Rock off and on for several years. Austin/Taker, Austin/HHH, Rock/HHH, and so on.
Yeah but, in my opinion at least, those matches were better then Cena/Edge. I felt the rivalry was overkilled by WWE awhile back before Cena won the WWE Championship back at Unforgiven. - Quote :
- I also agree with the WWE title and short title runs and I think that the same could be said for the WHC. It change hands 8 times in the last 12 months> hope that whomever wins that match has the WHC title for a while and I hope that HHH's 13th WWE title run last for a long time.
It appears that the Divas will be doing nothing this year, but it will be better then the Diva match last year. I can only think of one great Divas match in recent Mania, Trish vs. Mickie James. The divas do something every year, I remember reading WWE called Trish to see if she could return (in a match) so that could happen, don't recall what he answer was. Also, I expect something between Melina and Beth to take place at Mania if Trish turned it down. - Quote :
- I hope that Morrison gets in the MITB match this year. That Moonsalt with a ladder in his hands from last year was crazy. I figure that Kennedy will be returning to action soon and that he could be part of the MITB.
I wish WWE would go back to the way it was at 23. We're they had rising stars (Punk and Kennedy) and already established stars (Edge and Orton) I mean it was the best MITB match, so why not? As long as a younger guy wins I'd be good. - Quote :
- I still can't muster much for the Hardy vs. Hardy match. I would like to see that feud play out in the MITB match first and then continue it over the summer months.
I wonder what Austin will be doing at WM? I read that he may be a ref in the WWE title match. Disagree on the Hardy fued, I wouldn't want it to interfere with the MITB match and I think Austin will ref that match. - Quote :
- I just read a rumor that Vince told Jericho that he will have something big at Mania. I hope that Hogan does not show up. I was a huge fan, but his time is way past and he has made a mockery of his wrestling career with his dumb ass reality shows. the only match I want too see Hogan in is Austin vs. Hogan. I would have a mark attack seeing Austin whip Hogans ass. The dream match for me was never Rock vs. Hogan. That year Austin got stuck wrestling Scott Hall, while The Rock got hogan. Shortly after that, Austin "took his ball and went home". Being stuck in that match, I can see why. Rumors of Mickey Rourke wrestling keep popping up and I really hope that they are not true. Playing a wrestler in a movie does not give him a spot on the biggest wrestling event of all-time. He shows up at Mania, fine. He refs Jericho's match. fine. Maybe he even gets a little involved, but no way should he get a match on the card.
Aslong as Jericho doesn't face Flair or even Hogan (I wouldn't really mind it but, don't want to see it), I'll be fine. | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:21 pm | |
| Austin/Rock. Rock/HHH, Austin/HHH were all big draw rivals. I am not sayin that I want to see Edge/Cena for the next 5 years, I am just sayin it is possible. I can't see the WHC match being Show vs. Edge, one on one. I see yet another Triple Threat. Austin refing Hardy vs. Hardy would make me a lot more interested in that match, I still don't really care about that feud. Kane is in the MITB again. Either Santino or Mark Henry will be in the MITB because they have a match on ECW this week. | |
| | | Tiff Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:44 am | |
| I want Edge/Orton, man. I know that they're both heels, but it would be one hell of a match. I mean, they are probably the two leading guys on either brand at the moment, so it'd just be interesting to see who they had come out on top. But obviously, that won't happen, because it's HHH/Orton and Cena/Edge. Tbh, although I know once I'm watching it I'll enjoy the matches, I'm just not that hyped up about either. Perhaps it's because we've seen them both before. As always, I'm really looking forward to MITB. I hope Kennedy will be back in the next few weeks and get a place in there, but I dunno. If not, Morrison needs to be in it, and if he is, I see him winning. | |
| | | Mr. Tambourine Man Mid-Carder
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:33 pm | |
| This is possibly the worst buildup to a Wrestlemania I can remember. Let's look at the matches announced and/or assumed to be taking place.
HHH vs. Orton -So many questions. First, how is Orton still here? In what universe does an employee kick his boss in the head, kick the boss' son, AND break his boss' daughters neck, yet still stay employed. Furthermore, how does he get himself a title match? I know this is wrestling and all. We've seen McMahon get attacked before. But it's always been a babyface doing the attacking. And it makes sense because Vince, being the evil boss, wants to get revenge for being humiliated. However, this makes no sense. They've tried to cover this up by bringing in fake attorney's and what-not, but this is still utter nonsense. Another question. If Triple H is Stephanie's husband: Why isn't he in charge? What's Vickie doing running the show? How do you explain the segment on Monday where Orton was about to have Triple H kicked out of HIS OWN RING?
Edge/Cena/Big Show Edge/Big Show doesn't seem interesting at all. I'm sure This will be some sort of Triple Threat. But boy, talk about a waste of a Mania match. It would have been so much better to see Cena/Edge again, IMO.
Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker Why did Kozlov have to beat Undertaker and destroy Shawn Michaels in the same week? If Kozlov isn't even going to be in the match, couldn't they have just left him out of the feud completely?
Hardy vs. Hardy I can't complain. It's been okay so far. But rather uninspiring to tell you the truth. | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:37 pm | |
| How logical is the Orton/HHH fued? Maybe it isn't but I am a huge HHH mark and I also like Orton, so I am happy with this match. How logical was it for Austin, The Rock, HBK, Taker, or anyone else that has given Vince an ass kickin? It may not be logical, but it is fun and it was different to see Vince in a face role. ECW spoiler, MITB entry - Spoiler:
Mark Henry won a spot in the MITB match on ECW
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| | | Y2J X Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:20 pm | |
| I can kind of agree with this being one of the worst Mania buildings but, I think I can fill in a few things or try. - Mr. Tambourine Man wrote:
- This is possibly the worst buildup to a Wrestlemania I can remember. Let's look at the matches announced and/or assumed to be taking place.
HHH vs. Orton -So many questions. First, how is Orton still here? In what universe does an employee kick his boss in the head, kick the boss' son, AND break his boss' daughters neck, yet still stay employed. Furthermore, how does he get himself a title match? I know this is wrestling and all. We've seen McMahon get attacked before. But it's always been a babyface doing the attacking. And it makes sense because Vince, being the evil boss, wants to get revenge for being humiliated. However, this makes no sense. They've tried to cover this up by bringing in fake attorney's and what-not, but this is still utter nonsense. Another question. If Triple H is Stephanie's husband: Why isn't he in charge? What's Vickie doing running the show? How do you explain the segment on Monday where Orton was about to have Triple H kicked out of HIS OWN RING? First thing, I don't recall them saying he broke Steph's neck but, I haven't watch Smackdown in awhile. McMahon's character is the kind of guy who doesn't fire an employees (depending on what they do to him) but, would like to make the suffer. With this being wrestling, he is able to achieve that. Somebody like Vince, would never just fire someone like Austin no matter what he did to him, instead Vince would do what he could to make his life a living hell, this has gone on (with different people) for years, it's nothing new, we all know that's how Vince's character works. Now, maybe Vince wasn't in charge (kayfabe of course) but, it's not like Steph and Shane (more Shane) haven't adapted McMahon's way of revange. I know it was for a short while in the ring but, their is a reason that it's always a babyface attacking, Vince normally is heel. Yet, Vince returned that one night as a face, siding with Steph and making Jericho grovel. Shane and Steph wanted revange for Orton attacking their father, Orton playing the heel, Shane and Steph playing a face, makes sense, it's just different to what they normally do. For the final three, 1. According to the HHH character all he wants to do is be the big champ, the character would rather wrestle then be with management. Also, WWE wanted to come out and say he was married to Steph, which is what they did, never really said he had much power, just that he was in the McMahon family. 2. Vickie Guerrero is the highest ranking GM, so she will be interm GM untill Steph comes back, take that with number 1 and you got your answer. 3. Read the finally sentence of number 1, that will clear it up. - Quote :
- Edge/Cena/Big Show
Edge/Big Show doesn't seem interesting at all. I'm sure This will be some sort of Triple Threat. But boy, talk about a waste of a Mania match. It would have been so much better to see Cena/Edge again, IMO. I thought Show and Vickie were having a fling, if my theory is correct then that should have been revealed first. At least the build up would be better but, I agree. - Quote :
- Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker
Why did Kozlov have to beat Undertaker and destroy Shawn Michaels in the same week? If Kozlov isn't even going to be in the match, couldn't they have just left him out of the feud completely? For a very simple reason, to give HBK credit going in. He has one of the worst Mania records and hasn't really had anything to back him up going in. He fell on hard times and honestly, came out on the losing side of his fued with Jericho. They did it to show HBK, had what it takes to end the undefeated streak of someone who could beat Taker so that it gives him a lot more creditbiality in beating Taker at Mania, which is something, that WWE never fell on and it's something that goes with the Taker character. Kozlov was the best guy WWE could have had HBK beat to make people question hard if he could beat Taker's streak. - Quote :
- Hardy vs. Hardy
I can't complain. It's been okay so far. But rather uninspiring to tell you the truth. Matt's promo after the Rumble was great but, I've been uninterested in it after that. | |
| | | Ashley Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:45 pm | |
| Mark Henry and Kane are now in it with CM Punk. It wouild've been funny to see Santino in there >.> He would make the MITB match epic. He could just walk up the ladder while nobodies looking and get WTFPWNED and still make it look funny. | |
| | | Y2J X Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:44 pm | |
| If Santino went in it would of ruined MITB match. Although this year isn't looking better, would've rather had somebody Kozlov, Umaga, or Knox in if they were going to put to monsters in (difference between Kane and Henry, Kane is actually good). I hope after Henry, they start putting in people who would actually be good during the match (like I said Kane is good, and he had a good performance in the first MITB). I'd like to see Benjamin in it (Made the most spots in MITB matches), Christian (the victor), and Evan Bourne (heard he is clear to compete). If Kennedy is cleared then him to. Also I would like if they did what 23 did and throw in some main eventers to give the match more spice to it. Cena might not do anything, he could go in.
I wouldn't really mind if Morrison is in or not. He did a sick ladder/moonsault but, in my honest opinion, it wasn't the best Mania MITB spot. Benjamin gave us that, not to mention took a good bump during last year, while it wasn't the highlight, still a good bump. Plus, if Morrison is in Money in the Bank then that lessens the chance of the tag titles being unified, no better place to do that then Mania. I see Morrison and Miz vs. The Colons for the Undisputed Tag Team Championships. | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:16 pm | |
| - Quote :
- For weeks there have been rumors that Hulk Hogan will be a part of WrestleMania 25 in some capacity. Originally it was rumored that he'd be wrestling John Cena and lately there's been talk that he will be the legend to stand up to Chris Jericho once and for all.
Hulk Hogan has updated his Twitter status (link), which currently reads:
"Yo Maniacs, What are your favorite letters? Currently mine are C & J. Or... Maybe J & C?"
The "C & J" would seem to indicate Chris Jericho and the "J & C" indicate John Cena. Both Hardy's have MITB match on SD this week, so I might get my wish for both to be in the MITB. I do agree that the build up to Mania has been great, it seems to have started to late, but I am still looking forward to Mania, I really hope that Jericho doesn't have to wrestle Hogan though. | |
| | | Mr. Tambourine Man Mid-Carder
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:48 pm | |
| Hulk Hogan vs. John Cena could make this a legendary show. The build up would be incredible, and a Cena victory could go a long way in restoring the status Cena had in 2007. | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:00 pm | |
| That match, if it where to happen, seems thrown togther at the last minute. I would rather see Cena vs. Edge vs. Show, even though we have seen Cena vs. Edge a bunch of times already. I think that Hogan vs. Cena would be short and either one of them can really wrestle. Jericho would give a better match. | |
| | | Mr. Tambourine Man Mid-Carder
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:54 pm | |
| There's still a month left until WrestleMania. If they start building it next week, there would be plenty of time. Jericho/Hogan doesn't really work IMO. Either Hogan wins and Jericho's momentum is shot or Jericho wins and everyone leaves WrestleMania bummed out over seeing Hogan lose to a heel. Plus, do you really think Jericho and Hogan have compatible styles? Cena/Hogan can do a lot of posing and finisher trading. Just the crowd reaction could carry that match. Jericho needs someone who can either hard-brawl with him or go hold-for-hold. | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:01 pm | |
| Last year, the build up started a lot sooner. The main events were set in stone by the end of No Way Out. We knew that Taker would face Edge and that HHH would face Orton, of course Cena was added just after No Way Out. This year, there are more question about WM like who will Jericho wrestle? There are only 4 weeks until Mania and if Hogan doesn't show up soon, there will be no time to build Hogan/Cena. Hogan/Jericho would be easier because of the Jericho/Legends angle. | |
| | | Manu Soldier WWE Superstar
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:48 pm | |
| i want jericho to face someone, which he will | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:12 pm | |
| Vickie and Show? The though of those 2 togther is gross. Great, now that picture is in my head | |
| | | Tiff Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:35 pm | |
| Ew I know, that footage wasn't nice. I lol'ed when Cena told Vickie he loved her, tho, that would've been an interesting angle. And Kofi is now in the MITB, with Jericho losing because of Flair. Perhaps it will now be Y2J/Flair at WM now that Hogan is injured, that's if they don't sort things out on Raw next week. | |
| | | Inah Head Bitch In Charge
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:05 pm | |
| ^ Y2J vs Flair? NO freaking way! | |
| | | Tiff Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:58 pm | |
| Yup, Flair interrupted Jericho's match on Raw this week, which made him lose, so Y2J has challenged Ric to come out of retirement next week and wrestle him. I reckon something will happen so that they don't have the match till Mania. | |
| | | Inah Head Bitch In Charge
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:00 pm | |
| If they do have a match at 'Mania, then that would just suck sooooo bad. Flair had the right retirement, like seriously, what's the point of them trying to ruin that? | |
| | | Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:16 am | |
| Stone Cold is going to be on Raw next week, so he will probably get involved in the Jericho angle somehow. I can't wait to see Austin stomp a mud hole in Jericho's ass and walk it dry. I don't think that Flair should wrestle after retiring just a year ago, but wrestlers never fully retire, so it wouldn't be terrible to see Naitch at Mania | |
| | | Tiff Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: Wrestlemania 25 Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:01 am | |
| Yeah I agree, Ric had the perfect retirement and it should really be left at that, but you know what WWE are like, so it wouldn't surprise me if we see him wrestling soon. :/
Austin vs. Jericho would be pretty good though. | |
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