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PostSubject: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 12:58 am

As seen on Raw last night — or not seen — they didn't bother to air a graphic in honor of Andrew "Test" Martin, who served nearly seven years of service to the company at various points from 1998 through 2007. Company officials are said to be on edge about Martin as his death brought them some unwanted bad publicity when they're trying harder than to ever to present a clean image to the public. As result, they didn't announce the Von Erichs' induction into the WWE Hall of Fame during the broadcast since of the five wrestling sons of the legendary Fritz Von Erich, four died before their 34th birthday (quite like Martin). Instead, they quietly made the announcement on WWE.com.

Perhaps in another sign that WWE is trying to shy away from the death of Martin, they put up a graphic acknowledging his passing on the front page of the company website on Saturday, but pulled it early Sunday. While the statement regarding his passing is still up, it's buried amidst a sea of miscellaneous headlines. Furthermore, they didn't bother to put up a tribute photo gallery in honor of Martin like they usually do when a past or present company performer passes away.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 1:29 pm

I find that absolutly disrespectful and bad on wwe's part. Test was with the company for 7 years. Sure, Test made a mistake with drugs and such. But I still think wwe should of honored him. Bad move on wwe's part.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 2:47 pm

Well, if you did see, Kelly Kelly blew a kiss up to him during her entrance if you look carefully. I thought that was going to be where they come in, the commentators saying something about it and a promo airing, but it didn't happen.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 3:04 pm

Once again, WWE happens to piss me off. Of course, I understand why they would do this but, seriously it's just disrepesctful.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 3:33 pm

Yea, it's just disrespectful. They shoulld have at least acknowledged his passing away on air, if they didn't want to make the whole show dedicated to him.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 4:52 pm

Everybody has to remember what happened before when they acknowledged the death of a superstar. They ended up dealing with a huge Benoit issue. As of right now (or at least I think nothing has changed), there isn't a known cause of death. If it turns out that he was pimping girls and a Russian Mafia drugged and killed him, how are they going to back-peddle from that? Though you'd like to see a mention, from a business standpoint, this was absolutely the right move.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 5:38 pm

^ From a business standpoint, yes, that was the right move and I know wrestling is merely a business, but we're talking about a guy here, who sacrificed himself for the said business. I mean, broadcasting their tribute would be a really risky move for them, but was there really any need to take it away from their website? If Test was just a guy who worked there for 2 months, then sure, they shouldn't care about him, but Test was there for 7 years and was involved with major storylines; the fans know him. So it's just complete and utterly disrespectful for them to just ignore it. And come on, it's not like they can completely take away drugs from wrestling. It's always going to be there now.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 5:55 pm

Even though it may never completely disappear, what does it say about your sport when you aren't trying? MLB is in the same condition as WWE when it comes to steroids, but you've seen how much improvement there has been in just a few years after hundreds of years of cheating. It's just like the HOF, if you took steroids and in a way disrespected the business yourself, then do you expect to get in? Mark McGuire hasn't gotten in, even if he is one of the better statistical power hitters in baseball.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 6:12 pm

I know nothing about baseball Very Happy.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 6:16 pm

Well basically, Mark McGuire was a great home run hitter and in his prime was one of the biggest names in the sport and drew lots of fans. Then all the allegations and possibly some proof came out he used steroids to make him strong to hit more home runs. Since then, he has retired, and though is still known as one of the best home run hitters, he has gotten a poor vote tally for the hall of fame because of the steroid issues.

Same thing needs to happen in wrestling. If you cheat or drug yourself up, you shouldn't be heavily considered for any respect over people who performed legitimately.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 6:25 pm

babaganoosh wrote:
Same thing needs to happen in wrestling. If you cheat or drug yourself up, you shouldn't be heavily considered for any respect over people who performed legitimately.

I understand this, but can you really name a lot of main eventers who never took steroids?
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 9:27 pm

Inah wrote:
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Same thing needs to happen in wrestling. If you cheat or drug yourself up, you shouldn't be heavily considered for any respect over people who performed legitimately.

I understand this, but can you really name a lot of main eventers who never took steroids?

Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, and many others.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 10:14 pm

Rey Mysterio not taking steroids? Are you serious?

When he returned from injury last year at Summerslam, it was clearly evident that he had taken steroids. He had that huge belly for weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeWed Mar 18, 2009 10:46 pm

Inah wrote:
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Same thing needs to happen in wrestling. If you cheat or drug yourself up, you shouldn't be heavily considered for any respect over people who performed legitimately.

I understand this, but can you really name a lot of main eventers who never took steroids?
The fight against steroids, especially so rampid, isn't looking for a quick fix solution. It's working on future generations and trying to prevent them from starting. Once again using a baseball example, the current career home run leader Barry Bonds is pretty much exiled from baseball and nobody will sign him for any amount of money. I'm not saying WWE should fire everybody, but if someone fails a drug test *cough* Jeff Hardy *cough*, don't throw them into the main event picture and give him the biggest solo push he's ever gotten. If they can set a proper example now, kids like Swagger or Bourne will be less inclined to even start if tey know firm consequences are held even for veterans.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 12:32 pm

stl311 wrote:
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babaganoosh wrote:
Same thing needs to happen in wrestling. If you cheat or drug yourself up, you shouldn't be heavily considered for any respect over people who performed legitimately.

I understand this, but can you really name a lot of main eventers who never took steroids?

Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, and many others.
The fact that you said, "and many more" means that you can't think of any others but you know that the list isn't of a significant number. Most of them do, because as I heard from a certain former wrestler, who it said on the programme title "knows best" "Big Arms mean big pay cheques, brother" therefore with the schedule they are doing, wrestlers have barely any time to go to the gym and use steroids instead.
WWE will acknowlage the death more when they know the cause, IF it suits them from a business standpoint, but the fact that they had an advertisement on the website show that they are showing respect to an exstent that is suitable for them.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 12:54 pm

stl311 wrote:
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babaganoosh wrote:
Same thing needs to happen in wrestling. If you cheat or drug yourself up, you shouldn't be heavily considered for any respect over people who performed legitimately.

I understand this, but can you really name a lot of main eventers who never took steroids?

Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, and many others.

Are you Kidding me. it is so freaking Evident Rey is on steroids. Look at him in WCW and then him in 2002 with WWE. The change is so Drastic. Also im even willing to bet Punk is on the Roids. He sure is not superslim and even if he is 'Straight Edge' Im still willing to bet he is on them. Just because you are small does not mean your on roids. Look at AJ Styles, Shelley, Sabin, Kofi ... There all on roids.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 2:34 pm

Kofi? On steroids? lololol, no.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 3:26 pm

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Kofi? On steroids? lololol, no.

Urgh yeah it is quite evident he is. I have nearly spent my whole life around a wrestling Business. I know the difference between someone who is on Roids and someone who is not.

On a sidenot, How is Kofi on steroids Undoubtable. Just look at his tone.

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Back on topic, Someone free of Steroids does not look anything like that. There Muscles develop differently and the most noticable Difference between the two is Abs.

Anabolic steroids cause the abs to be quite Plumpy and not very Evident (Think Styles). While stuff like Brassinno Steroids causes evident abs (Think Morrison or kofi).

So yeah Kofi does do roids, Just because he isnt a Lesner or test doesnt mean anything. the smallest guy can do roids.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 3:27 pm

Or, and this is just an idea, he could, ya know, work out.

Kofi on steroids? Doubt it, and always will.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 3:31 pm

Yeah, But for roids to work you actually need to work out. Roids are like Petrol, It doesnt get you to your destination. You use it to get to your destination. Steroids do the same thing they just develop muscle more rapidly which leads to a difference in tone. Notice how normal guys who work out do not have a similiar tone then the likes of Kofi (if they dont take roids that is)
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Shying Away From Test   WWE Shying Away From Test Icon_minitimeFri Mar 20, 2009 3:35 pm

Hurm, so going by that, he'd look bigger then he would have looked, say, two years ago?

Time to check my camera Very Happy
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