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Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:40 pm | |
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- Eric Bischoff spoke to Alez Marvez of ScrippsNews.com about his new business partnership and on-air and Here are some highlights:
Why He Joined TNA: "It was the combination of a lot of things," Bischoff said of his TNA interest. "Most of all, I like Dixie. She has a lot of integrity and I like to be in business with people like that. Secondly, I saw an opportunity. The way we have our deal structured is great for Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment. And this provided me with a chance to get back into a business I love. I believe a creative person who has a certain feel for this business can change the fortunes of this company in a good way."
His Strategy To Make TNA #1: "No matter what people have said or written about me, I know what I accomplished changed the business and had a positive impact. I also made a lot of mistakes and have the scar tissue to prove it. I'm going to try and repeat the good stuff and avoid the bad stuff."
His Relationship With Vince McMahon: "I have a tremendous respect for Vince and, in a perverse way, I like him. But at the end of the day, I think I'm better than him. I'm more creative than him and have a better feel for the business." Bichoff laughed, "It's just that he happens to be a lot more successful than I am."
Someone needs to remind him that Vince bought WCW right from under him, took what he wanted, and buried the rest. More success=better Bischoff. | |
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That-Damn-Good Mid-Carder
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:56 pm | |
| Ha, Bischoff did great things in WCW. Really did help mold the business into what it is today. Definitely had an impact on the industry as a whole. Don't necessarily agree with the better than Vince stuff but that's all a matter of opinion. Neither company rested solely on their shoulders, so neither man single-handedly won out over the other. | |
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EdgeHead Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:12 pm | |
| Well, if you think about certain aspects of it (not the whole picture), I do think that Bischoff's more creative than Vince. Would've we had D-Generation X or The Nation if Eric Bischoff didn't bring the NWO? Would've Vince created a Light Heavyweight Division if Eric Bischoff didn't strike that partnership with New Japan to import international talent and create the Cruiserweight Division? Vince McMahon has been successful in the long run because he has better assets to make things work. Bischoff didn't always have all the financial resources that Vince has but I truly believe that if Bischoff had been more mature and not so obsessed by destroying Vince McMahon, WCW would've survived longer.
Nowadays, it seems to me that Vince McMahon isn't creating a product for the fans; he's creating a product for his own personal entertainment. You have to be delusional to claim that you conditioned the fans to chant "ECW" for 5 years before resurrecting the brand. | |
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Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
Number of posts : 7643 Age : 42 Location : New Albany, IN, USA Registration date : 2008-04-03 Points : 30578
| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:50 pm | |
| I think stuff like this does a diservice to what TNA is trying to do. All Hogan Bischoff can talk about is Vince. They need to forget about Vince for the moment and do their thing. They cameback to wrestling for their own self serving intrest. They have already recreated WCW and WCW failed in the end. | |
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That-Damn-Good Mid-Carder
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:53 pm | |
| Bischoff did have money coming out of his ass thanks to Ted Turner though. Which is how he acquired so many WWE stars like Hogan, Macho Man and countless others. Think it was more the fact that the money was put in the wrong places. Do agree that Bischoff did force WWE to do alot of things simply to keep up though. Beating Raw for 84 weeks in a row in the ratings isn't something to be taken lightly. Didn't exactly happen by accident. Bischoff did do alot of great things but for one reason or another, WCW ended up falling.
Both Eric and Vince did force the wrestling business to evolve and change though. Vince obviously took it to amazing heights in the first place and then Bischoff took it that little bit higher. Either way, they are both responsible for alot of were the industry is at today. | |
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Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:59 pm | |
| - That-Damn-Good wrote:
- Bischoff did have money coming out of his ass thanks to Ted Turner though. Which is how he acquired so many WWE stars like Hogan, Macho Man and countless others. Think it was more the fact that the money was put in the wrong places. Do agree that Bischoff did force WWE to do alot of things simply to keep up though. Beating Raw for 84 weeks in a row in the ratings isn't something to be taken lightly. Didn't exactly happen by accident. Bischoff did do alot of great things but for one reason or another, WCW ended up falling.
Both Eric and Vince did force the wrestling business to evolve and change though. Vince obviously took it to amazing heights in the first place and then Bischoff took it that little bit higher. Either way, they are both responsible for alot of were the industry is at today. Bischoff made awful business deals. He gave all of the former WWE talent gauranteed contracts and they did not have to work very hard. WCW did not fail because they lacked funding. Ted Turner is worth far more then Vince is. | |
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That-Damn-Good Mid-Carder
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:35 am | |
| Yeah, Vince is the better businessman. Which would explain why he is still in business obviously. Hogan for one really helped WCW but when they hired Bret, who they really didn't do anything with but were paying a substantial amount of money. That's an example of them blowing some funding. WCW obviously didn't fail due to lack of funding though. Never said that is what led to the company closing it's door. Just the fact that despite the bottomless pockets they were digging out of, there was still money wasted along the way. It's not like Ted didn't have any to spare though. | |
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Sykesy "Mean is making Jess Mancini ride her bike home after I ass fucked her" - Johnny 'Drama' Chase
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:21 am | |
| Eric is much more Creative then Vince. Just look at WCW compared to WWF (Attitude Era). There is no argument.
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Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:48 am | |
| If by creative you mean giving the World Title to some actor, then yes, Bisch was awesome. | |
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Tiff Main Eventer
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:33 pm | |
| Don't get me wrong, it isn't like Bischoff hasn't been successful.. but he's nothing compared to Vince. If he was better than him, then he'd own the biggest wrestling business there was now, not the other way around. | |
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Y2J X Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:21 pm | |
| I could agree that Bishoff is more creative than Vince but honestly, that doesn't matter. It's a business. Vince wins, plain and simple. | |
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Sykesy "Mean is making Jess Mancini ride her bike home after I ass fucked her" - Johnny 'Drama' Chase
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:33 pm | |
| - Concrete Jesus wrote:
- If by creative you mean giving the World Title to some actor, then yes, Bisch was awesome.
Good point ... But here is WWF in 1998 'Alright Austin,Rock,HHH and Foley, You will be the main eventers for the next three years'. And this sort of got bring in the end. While WCW from 98 to 2001 had the following min eventers. Hogan Sting Nash Hall Luger Goldberg D.D.P Randy Savage Booker T Scott Steiner Jeff Jarrett And uh ... David Arquette XP WCW also came up with some solid match types, WWE had the Dog Kennel From Hell which we would all like to forget. | |
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Concrete Jesus Wrestling Legend
Number of posts : 7643 Age : 42 Location : New Albany, IN, USA Registration date : 2008-04-03 Points : 30578
| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:13 pm | |
| Dog Kennel from Hell did suck. I am not sayin that everything Vince has done is briliant, but he has had far more success then Bisch. Has Vince ever worked for Bischoff, no. Vince bought WCW and then bought Bischoff for nearly 4 years. When Vince was done with him, he let him go. McMahon bought and sold those main eventers you mentioned and WWE had wrestlers turned actors, not David Arquette. | |
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Sykesy "Mean is making Jess Mancini ride her bike home after I ass fucked her" - Johnny 'Drama' Chase
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:00 pm | |
| Yeah, Vince is more successful ... Obviously. But he is nowhere near a creative genius that Bishoff is. | |
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EdgeHead Wrestling Veteran
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| Subject: Re: Bischoff says he is better then Vince McMahon Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:18 am | |
| - Concrete Jesus wrote:
- If by creative you mean giving the World Title to some actor, then yes, Bisch was awesome.
My timeframes might be off here, but to my knowledge, I don't think Eric Bischoff was in control of WCW anymore when they gave the belt to David Arquette. I'm pretty sure that it was Vince Russo's ides and since the company was run by Brad Siegel (a Turner suit), who didn't give a damn about the company, they let that slide. | |
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