Post your suggestions thread.

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Mattitude Follower wrote:

stl311 wrote:

Yes well that would be up to whomever ran it, which would be someone who can be trusted with forum business. Someone like Inah or Baba since nobody else comes to mind.

Cheap shot right there.

Sorry.

*Alex, Inah, or Baba.

Also, shit mod of the year would be something more for Affliction, Sykesy, or Zach...since all three of you had modship this year and all three of you had it taken away for doing absolutely nothing.

Call it starting things if you want, but like always it is just myself speaking the truth.

Seth's comment above isn't fighting. He gave his opinion, he didn't take personal shots at anyone. Sure it's controversial but it isn't what I consider fighting. I don't think Affy's post about Seth winning shit mod of the year is fighting either. They both gave their opinion and that's fine. If it descends into 'fuck you, motherfucker' and other insults then that's when it should go to the feud.

For anyone who thinks it's okay for Seth to not use the feud then reconsider because he has official warnings to his name as well as suspensions in the past. I have no problem punishing Seth and will do in the future if I think it's the right decision. But those who think he's getting off lightly should also consider Affy. I've been leniant with him. When people posted 'porn.com' on DXX, they were perma-banned. Affy got away with a two day suspension.

I never actually said that Seth gets away with everything, but from what I have seen, Affy gets all the blame. Sure, Affy can't control his words and Seth, if I may say so, presents his insults better than Affy, we all know these guys go a long way back with pissing each other off and Seth knows how to push Affy's button; it's not very hard to anyway, but still.. I just think that it's unfair on Affy when Seth shows himself to be a little bit more decent. Seth is also always saying that Affy's going to get banned/suspended/warned, just because he can. He can argue that he's only joking, but we all know how Affy reacts to these things, and they're not friends. They're not the kind to joke around with each other.

I'm not criticizing how the staff works, Seth or Affy. I'm just simply saying how I see things.

Inah wrote:

I never actually said that Seth gets away with everything, but from what I have seen, Affy gets all the blame. Sure, Affy can't control his words and Seth, if I may say so, presents his insults better than Affy, we all know these guys go a long way back with pissing each other off and Seth knows how to push Affy's button; it's not very hard to anyway, but still.. I just think that it's unfair on Affy when Seth shows himself to be a little bit more decent. Seth is also always saying that Affy's going to get banned/suspended/warned, just because he can. He can argue that he's only joking, but we all know how Affy reacts to these things, and they're not friends. They're not the kind to joke around with each other.

I'm not criticizing how the staff works, Seth or Affy. I'm just simply saying how I see things.

Affy doesn't get all the blame. On the religion topic where they most recently clashed, they were both warned equally. If Affy does get blamed more, it's because he responded to an indirect or ambiguous comment from Seth with that kinda 'fuck you, fat ass' remarks which belong nowhere else but in the feud. Regardless of whether Affy does get all the blame or whether Seth's initial comments are meant to cause offense, Affy really should have learnt to make a feud thread if he's going to reply to posts in that manner, seeing as he's been told several times before. There's no excuses for it.

Like I said, comments about who's been a shit mod isn't fighting but as soon as the flaming starts happening, it should be directed to the feud thread. Affy wouldn't get blamed at all if he just made a topic in the feud in response to one of Seth's comments but he rarely does, instead posting back with direct insults.

But I can't deny that my patience with Seth as a member of the staff team is running out. He seems to end up involved in more trouble than most of the site. His standing and presence as a moderator seems to be damaged as a result of it.

former staff member vs staff member


that's .. sad, really ...

Guilha wrote:

former staff member vs staff member


that's .. sad, really ...

What do you mean by this exactly?

Mattitude Follower wrote:

Guilha wrote:

former staff member vs staff member


that's .. sad, really ...

What do you mean by this exactly?

Affy vs Seth .... it's sad to see a former staff member and a current staff member behaving like that, when they (well, not Affy anymore) should be the ones keeping the place in order and not creating a bad environment

.. simply that

Guilha wrote:

Mattitude Follower wrote:

Guilha wrote:

former staff member vs staff member


that's .. sad, really ...

What do you mean by this exactly?

Affy vs Seth .... it's sad to see a former staff member and a current staff member behaving like that, when they (well, not Affy anymore) should be the ones keeping the place in order and not creating a bad environment

Ah. Yes, I agree. Seth's uncompromising style makes him effective as a mod at times but he has overstepped the line on too many occasions. There's no denying that.

Mattitude Follower wrote:

Guilha wrote:

Mattitude Follower wrote:

Guilha wrote:

former staff member vs staff member


that's .. sad, really ...

What do you mean by this exactly?

Affy vs Seth .... it's sad to see a former staff member and a current staff member behaving like that, when they (well, not Affy anymore) should be the ones keeping the place in order and not creating a bad environment

Ah. Yes, I agree. Seth's uncompromising style makes him effective as a mod at times but he has overstepped the line on too many occasions. There's no denying that.

yeah, no denying, Seth is a good at what he does, when it strictly comes to his position, but also, in my opinion, although what Seth said above about the others being demotted for being "shitty mods", it may not be against the rules but it was unnecessary and just served to create an even more bad environment, imagining that Sykesy and Zach will reply back to him now .... like i said, may not be against the rules but it's childish and not Mod-like ... but that's another story for another time, i guess ... just quit with the attitude ..

stl311 wrote:

Also, shit mod of the year would be something more for Affliction, Sykesy, or Zach...since all three of you had modship this year and all three of you had it taken away for doing absolutely nothing.

When was I a mod?

People need to stop changing names...:S

And I think he's counting the junior mods.

Mr. Blonde wrote:

stl311 wrote:

Also, shit mod of the year would be something more for Affliction, Sykesy, or Zach...since all three of you had modship this year and all three of you had it taken away for doing absolutely nothing.

When was I a mod?

Putting Zach in that is not fair seeming he only Moderated the E-Fed and did a fine job until his departure from the e-fed.

Next I did a fine job moderating until my sudden departure. I was made mod of the wrestling boards and I was making 20 posts a day in there from previously 1-4 posts a day.

I contributed quite well in every board I was running and actually showed leadership and not walking around in my posts saying ... I do weed, Calling someone a molested victim and teasing Affy every chance you get. I mean, Is that what mod's should be doing? ... No!

Also, Still waiting on the CGS website

Okay, i was thinking about a possible suggestion to CGS, which i don't know if you'll like or not, but i think it could be a good idea ...


A staff evaluation .... the concept i imagined would be Alex, Babz and OP (the 3 Admins) would, at the end of each week/month, in a board of their own, give each Mod a grade (from A to F) and then post a common evaluation (result of the individual 3) for everyone to see, monthly, probably in the "Forum News" board ...

Mods could be evaluated on their behavior, reasons to lock threads, how they handle situations, etc ....

I think it could make the Mods work better since, at the end of a period, the Admins could examinate who was doing it right or not .. plus, by having their names evaluated out there, the Mods would most likely be more worried in doing their job fine ...

Sykesy wrote:

Mr. Blonde wrote:

stl311 wrote:

Also, shit mod of the year would be something more for Affliction, Sykesy, or Zach...since all three of you had modship this year and all three of you had it taken away for doing absolutely nothing.

When was I a mod?

Putting Zach in that is not fair seeming he only Moderated the E-Fed and did a fine job until his departure from the e-fed.

Oh that...then how was I a shit mod? I quit, I wasn't kicked out for being shit. Someone didn't have their facts straight.

Guilha wrote:

Okay, i was thinking about a possible suggestion to CGS, which i don't know if you'll like or not, but i think it could be a good idea ...


A staff evaluation .... the concept i imagined would be Alex, Babz and OP (the 3 Admins) would, at the end of each week/month, in a board of their own, give each Mod a grade (from A to F) and then post a common evaluation (result of the individual 3) for everyone to see, monthly, probably in the "Forum News" board ...

Mods could be evaluated on their behavior, reasons to lock threads, how they handle situations, etc ....

I think it could make the Mods work better since, at the end of a period, the Admins could examinate who was doing it right or not .. plus, by having their names evaluated out there, the Mods would most likely be more worried in doing their job fine ...

sorry for double post...but. I think this is an excellent idea. That way the moderators will have to abide by the rules and it will force them to do more or not as much for the better of the site. Also if they're not performing well cosistantly then you can an excuse to give them the axe.

Guilha wrote:

Okay, i was thinking about a possible suggestion to CGS, which i don't know if you'll like or not, but i think it could be a good idea ...


A staff evaluation .... the concept i imagined would be Alex, Babz and OP (the 3 Admins) would, at the end of each week/month, in a board of their own, give each Mod a grade (from A to F) and then post a common evaluation (result of the individual 3) for everyone to see, monthly, probably in the "Forum News" board ...

Mods could be evaluated on their behavior, reasons to lock threads, how they handle situations, etc ....

I think it could make the Mods work better since, at the end of a period, the Admins could examinate who was doing it right or not .. plus, by having their names evaluated out there, the Mods would most likely be more worried in doing their job fine ...

I actually like this idea. I have some doubts about it but we can all try this...hopefully.

And STL I love how you mentioned me as "shit" mod. I may have no been the best but as you can see I posted news on my board everyday. You might as well just put me, take Tic and Zach off they were good mods. While you just post stupid shit people really would give a damn about. You leave for like 5 months and then come back and your staff position is gone and then you bitch about how bad you want it back and then get it. I am fucking tired of your shit and how think you're better then everyone else. If I get banned I really don't care at this point...if it will get me away from this shit do it. I am really not causing a fight just speaking my mind. I dread coming to CGS some days because of STL and it didn't use to be like that. I only come on here now because of the e-fed and now I'm starting to think of retiring Brooks. I'm not going to take ANYONE'S shit here anymore I'm sick of it.

Alrighty than. Let's look into these ideas eh?

First off, Mod Evaluation. This would be a great idea. Well with exception to one thing, and that is simply even if the mods are doing a shit job we do not have anyone who could replace them. Basically CJ was a stretch just because he hadn't been here a whole lot I don't think, but he proved to be a worthy mod. Everyone else right now (Inah and SOL) have left modship due to scheduling conflicts, and Sykesy, Zach, and Affliction failed their junior modship thus they pretty much proved they weren't ready.

I really only see Tiff and Y2J X as the only two who could come in, and both have declined as I'm told.

Second off- Yes, I was counting Junior Modship. Its a mod position, thus it will be counted. You can say you all did this or you all did that, and Zach WAS a mod over another board outside the fed (which one I don't remember) and it basically got ignored. Had you guys actually done your jobs then basically you wouldn't of gotten the unanimous vote on axing you from your positions.

Third off- Affy's tirade. Whatever, you seriously expect a response from me? This isn't the feud, I don't have a wisecrack for you to cry about. I've not said one fucking thing that's not been true so get off my ass.

Fourth- This whole staff vs staff, or this whole STL does this or does that thing is getting old. Quickly.

Who rewrote the rules for this site?

Who cleans up the spam most of the time when it happens?

Who has been equally involved in where CGS is as anyone else?

Yeah, my methods may be questionable, you may not agree with them. But it works. I'm not going to tickle someone's balls when they need a firm kick in the ass. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Yeah, it does try Alex at times. But do you think he doesn't know it works? He knows when he needs someone to be real with someone and get in their shit than I'll do it no questions asked.

I walk a thin line between what is the rules and what isn't the rules. A very thin line. If some of the things I say get under your skin, or if you just flat out don't like me than that is more than fine by me. Because as long as what I'm doing is working to the extent that it is working than I'll keep doing it. The day it no longer works, or it is no longer deemed effective than I'll stop.

That being said, I've got full permission to issue warnings and lock threads at my choice. However, Alex and Baba both have the rights to overrule any choice I make. Every single time I've made a call they stuck by it, so for the most part they agree.

As far as those whom are calling me a shitty mod, than I'll simply say this.

Put up or shut up.

The staff is open to having certain junior mods again, and if you think you can do it then send in an application and you may get accepted. But if you don't do your job, or do a not so good job at doing your job you'll get the axe.

This does include asking a mod to delete spam in your section and taking extended periods of leave.

I think we're good here, have a great day.

The staff evaluations are interesting, but I wonder how accurate it might be. Firstly, OP never really comes on like...at all...so this ends up falling all on me and MF. Secondly, a lot of mod activity would be hard to keep track of. There's a lot of moderation like moving topics or merging topics that me and MF won't know of after it's done. Thirdly, any posts or topics deleted, admins won't know whether its deletion was justified because the thread/post is gone.

I think it'll pose a lot of challenges to do it accurately, but I wouldn't mind a general evaluation quarterly or semi-annually instead of trying to something weekly or monthly where you have to look at so many specifics.

stl311 wrote:

and Zach WAS a mod over another board outside the fed (which one I don't remember) and it basically got ignored.

What board??? I can't remember.

stl311 wrote:

Zach WAS a mod over another board outside the fed (which one I don't remember) and it basically got ignored.

Figured I should mention, just checking the, "Demotion & Junior Mods" thread, and SEZ is only listed as a junior mod over the E-Fed.

Y2J X wrote:

stl311 wrote:

Zach WAS a mod over another board outside the fed (which one I don't remember) and it basically got ignored.

Figured I should mention, just checking the, "Demotion & Junior Mods" thread, and SEZ is only listed as a junior mod over the E-Fed.

Thank you Y2J!

Alright I was wrong...my bad.

stl311 wrote:

Yeah, my methods may be questionable, you may not agree with them. But it works.

yeah, well, so did Hitler's ...


not saying you arent right about certain aspects and that your methods dont work, but sometimes they're too much and create a bad environment ... for example, Affy told me on MSN he's pondering to leave CGS ... i know it's also his fault with all the arguing but one part doesnt argue alone, i guess, and you being Mod shouldn't really be involved in such things, or at least not in such a big scale ..

stl311 wrote:

Alrighty than. Let's look into these ideas eh?

First off, Mod Evaluation. This would be a great idea. Well with exception to one thing, and that is simply even if the mods are doing a shit job we do not have anyone who could replace them. Basically CJ was a stretch just because he hadn't been here a whole lot I don't think, but he proved to be a worthy mod. Everyone else right now (Inah and SOL) have left modship due to scheduling conflicts, and Sykesy, Zach, and Affliction failed their junior modship thus they pretty much proved they weren't ready.

I don't think this was suggested for the simple fact of axing moderators. From what I have gathered, this is so moderators: you and CJ, could improve yourselves if you have done a mistake; Guilha did say "I think it could make the Mods work better", and if you think about it, it's not like Alex or baba would remove one of you from the staff if you've done one mistake in a month. I think they would only axe a CJ or yourself if you don't do anything about their evaluation, providing it's a bad one.

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Second off- Yes, I was counting Junior Modship. Its a mod position, thus it will be counted. You can say you all did this or you all did that, and Zach WAS a mod over another board outside the fed (which one I don't remember) and it basically got ignored. Had you guys actually done your jobs then basically you wouldn't of gotten the unanimous vote on axing you from your positions.

But weren't Zach, Sykesy and Affy already moderating certain parts of the forum when the Junior Mod system was introduced? It's not as if they were that official anyway; to quote Alex: "I'm not sure whether or not to give them colour at this stage as I generally like to hold that back for the top ranked positions.", so they weren't high ranked; I think the Junior Mod system was just a trial, as Alex himself wasn't sure of it.

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Third off- Affy's tirade. Whatever, you seriously expect a response from me? This isn't the feud, I don't have a wisecrack for you to cry about. I've not said one fucking thing that's not been true so get off my ass.

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Fourth- This whole staff vs staff, or this whole STL does this or does that thing is getting old. Quickly.

Then maybe you should see why people are thinking something's wrong. It's not just Affy thinking this now, I think if there are people, other than Affy, thinking there is something wrong, then maybe that's the case? I don't know.

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Who rewrote the rules for this site?

From what I can recall, did you not re-write the rules when Alex was contemplating on your mod position? You re-wrote that and did other things, such as promising a CGS website to save your job, which, you did a great job in.

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Who cleans up the spam most of the time when it happens?

It's a matter of who's online when someone spams the website. What kind of a moderator would not clean up the site whenever we get spammed if they're online?

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Who has been equally involved in where CGS is as anyone else?

This is obviously you, and no one is taking that away from you, but must you gloat on everything you've done for the site when, quite frankly, it is your job to do so?

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Yeah, my methods may be questionable, you may not agree with them. But it works. I'm not going to tickle someone's balls when they need a firm kick in the ass. I say what I mean and mean what I say. Yeah, it does try Alex at times. But do you think he doesn't know it works? He knows when he needs someone to be real with someone and get in their shit than I'll do it no questions asked.

Can you actually say it works when people are having problems with it? You have been a great mod, no doubt about that, but how you act sometimes does make one think if you still deserve your spot, but who are we to judge? We're not admins, but at the end of the day, we're still members of the site voicing our opinions.

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I walk a thin line between what is the rules and what isn't the rules. A very thin line. If some of the things I say get under your skin, or if you just flat out don't like me than that is more than fine by me. Because as long as what I'm doing is working to the extent that it is working than I'll keep doing it. The day it no longer works, or it is no longer deemed effective than I'll stop.

It's not that I don't like you, as a matter of fact, I do. But is there a rule saying you should always annoy people and make them think you're not very worthy of your job anymore?

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That being said, I've got full permission to issue warnings and lock threads at my choice. However, Alex and Baba both have the rights to overrule any choice I make. Every single time I've made a call they stuck by it, so for the most part they agree.

You do have full permission to issue warnings as you please, but when you threaten to issue a warning on a guy that the forum is aware of, that you don't like, then that is a problem. It's true that Alex and baba can override them, and maybe they don't because they think it's alright for you to do so, then I guess that's fine. They do run the site after all.

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As far as those whom are calling me a shitty mod, than I'll simply say this.

Put up or shut up.

You're always saying you have the right to speak out, because you live in a free country. So why exactly are you telling people to shut up? Are we not supposed to say anything now if we disagree, or not like something that is being done in the forum? Do we not have the right to question you now, because you're a mod, who has powers, and we don't? If that's the case now, then I do wonder why people still come in this forum.

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The staff is open to having certain junior mods again, and if you think you can do it then send in an application and you may get accepted. But if you don't do your job, or do a not so good job at doing your job you'll get the axe.

This does include asking a mod to delete spam in your section and taking extended periods of leave.

This is good for the staff, and I hope it works out this time.

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I think we're good here, have a great day.

I hope you have a great day too, Seth.

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Oh, and as for Guilha's suggestion, I think it's one of the best suggestions CGS has in a while. Not only will it benefit the staff, but it would benefit the forum as a whole.